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This might not be popular or seen as fair or whatever, but I'm curious what people have come up with for *cheesiest SW Lists.

The one I'm posting is one recommended by another at 1500 pts. If you have one at the same pts level of higher, 1750, 1850 or 2000, post it I'm interested to see what people think of the one I've posted and what others have come up with.

HQ – 420pts
Rune Priest
+Chooser of the Slain, Tempest’s Wrath & Living Lightning

Rune Priest
+Boltgun , Chooser of the Slain, Tempest’s Wrath & JotWW

Rune Priest
+Living Lightning & JotWW

Rune Priest
+Boltgun, Murderous Hurricane & JotWW

TROOPS – 660pts
Grey Hunter Squad (x5)
+Meltagun, Standard, Razorback w/ TL Lascannon

Grey Hunter Squad (x5)
+Meltagun, Standard, Razorback w/ TL Lascannon

Grey Hunter Squad (x5)
+Meltagun, Standard, Razorback w/ TL Lascannon

Grey Hunter Squad (x5)
+Meltagun, Standard, Razorback w/ TL Lascannon

HEAVY SUPPORT – 420
Long Fangs Squad (x6)
+5 Missile Launchers

Long Fangs Squad (x6)
+5 Missile Launchers

Long Fangs Squad (x6)
+5 Missile Launchers

(awaits the flames )

I hate that many missile launchers! I would never play against that list. Wouldn't even be fun.
Very competitive list mind you.

That isn't even that many missile launchers. Also, I would recommend TLP/Las for your razorbacks.

If you're going Shooty Army from Heck, make sure each RP has Living Lightning and one other power. Chooser on multiple models is useless by most readings of the rules.

Sinking that many points into RP at this level is kind of a detriment to you. You could throw some typhoons in for more missiles or get some sort of counter charge threat. Not to mention if you play GK, half your shooting disappears from aegis.


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Either way, it isn't really cheesy.

How does it disapear? Aegis only reduces the leadership by one if he target a troops.

At 1500, I throw out something like this:

Wolf Lord (SS/WC, SotB, TWM)
GH Pack x2 Meltagun, Standard. RB with TLP/LC
GH Pack x2 Flamer, MotW, Standard RB with TLP/LC
TWC x3 with one PF
LF x3 (5 ML)

And that list has about 90 points of fluff that can be cut for more units.


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Draigo wrote:How does it disapear? Aegis only reduces the leadership by one if he target a troops.

Or 4 if there's a Dreadnought in 6". Good thing dreadnoughts aren't a super popular choice in GK armies... Oh wait.


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I think at 1500, it is probably best to downgrade the WL to a WGBL, drop a TWC and get a scout squad in there though.

4 Rune Priests? Really?

One is enough at this point level, use the points for Wolf guards w/ combi meltas, and more troops. Also, the Razors should really be lasplas, as a 75pt tank with one gun isn't that great.

oh you mean those psyfleman that dont move forward and sit in the back? Yup that nullifies his shots.

How to make your opponent quit in 2 steps:

1) Show him your army list:

H.Q.

Rune Priest
Chooser, Lightning, Hurricane -110

Troops

Grey Hunters 5x
Melta, Rhino -115

Grey Hunters 5x
Melta, Las/Plas Razorback -155

Grey Hunters 5x
Melta, Las/Plas Razorback -155

Grey Hunters 5x
Melta, Las/Plas Razorback -155

Grey Hunters 5x
Melta, Las/Plas Razorback -155

Grey Hunters 5x
Melta, Las/Plas Razorback -155

Heavy Support

Long Fangs 5x
4x Missile Launchers, Las/Plas Razorback -190

Long Fangs 5x
4x Missile Launchers, Las/Plas Razorback -190

Long Fangs 5x
4x Missile Launchers -115

Total: 1495

2) Start pulling out Razorbacks so when he looks up to ask you how many razorbacks you have you can point at the table...and make sure you're smiling!

That list looks familiar LOL <wink wink nudge nudge>

pretre wrote:Not to mention if you play GK, half your shooting disappears from aegis.

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Either way, it isn't really cheesy.

pretre wrote:

Draigo wrote:How does it disapear? Aegis only reduces the leadership by one if he target a troops.

Or 4 if there's a Dreadnought in 6". Good thing dreadnoughts aren't a super popular choice in GK armies... Oh wait.

Draigo wrote:oh you mean those psyfleman that dont move forward and sit in the back? Yup that nullifies his shots.

pretre wrote:If you're going Shooty Army from Heck, make sure each RP has Living Lightning and one other power. Chooser on multiple models is useless by most readings of the rules.

Sinking that many points into RP at this level is kind of a detriment to you. You could throw some typhoons in for more missiles or get some sort of counter charge threat. Not to mention if you play GK, half your shooting disappears from aegis.

I hear all this and generally you're right. With one little exception, Aegis requires that you 'target' the model. Jaws of the World Wolf doesn't target anything, therefor Aegis shouldn't effect that power, Dreadnought or not. Atleast that's how it reads to me. (Unless there's a GK FAQ I've overlooked.)
*EDIT: Provided the first model it effects isn't the Dread or have Aegis.

Jabbdo wrote: Also, the Razors should really be lasplas, as a 75pt tank with one gun isn't that great.

pretre wrote:Also, I would recommend TLP/Las for your razorbacks.

Yeah, I agree I could go for that, so that way one weapons destroyed result doesn't turn my vehicle into a mobile wall.

First model is the target.

Q. Does Jaws of the World Wolf require line of sight?
Does it ignore terrain that blocks line of sight (i.e.,
impassable terrain)? (p37)
A. As a psychic shooting attack, Jaws of the World Wolf
requires line of sight. The Rune Priest must have line of
sight to the first model that the power affects – in effect he is treated as the target model; the power just happens to hit everybody else on its way through!

They changed how psychic powers work. That applies to others like blood lance too. BUt thats why you have misslies shoot the dreads. Its very unlikely that you will have a charging dread when so many are hyped on the psyfleman.

@Pretre & Draigo: I hear you, which is why I made the EDIT, if the Dread or the Aegis model is NOT the first model in the line, Aegis does not effect JotWW.

@Draigo: you're right, if they have to be in the back I'll just blast them with Missiles or Lascannons. =D That's equally as effective.

So if this list isn't 'cheesy' what is a cheesy list? And I saw Unholy's and that's pretty sick too, close to what I had listed with a few tweaks/edits.

@Bluewulf: You think so? heh

Also a side note, Pretre the reason I took 2 Choosers wasn't for rules of using them it was the fact that I need 4 difference wargear combinations to make the list legal.

The idea is that in a GK list every model has Aegis, but no bigs.

Nothing is Cheesy. Cheesy is a silly concept applied to lists that people dislike for one reason or another.


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Oh, Meltabombs are cheaper than choosers.

Oh, I didn't know that was a goal. >_< Never played as them or against them, just have the codex because I've always liked the models and I wanted to see what they were getting in the new codex.

I understand cheesy is subjective, I just wanted feedback on what people thought was cheesy, either playing as SW or against them.

Joww alway raises the hackles espeacially with nid or cron players.

Priests for razorbacks for the longfangs for the painful win as has been suggested

@Draigo: yeah it's a pretty nasty little psychic power.

Dually noted MFletch. Thanks for the comment.