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So, I am making a few list to play with and have ready at a moments notice when i go to the local store. here is what i have come up with for a 500 point list.

HQ: Lord Commissar w/ power weapon 85 pts
melta bomb
Troops: Vet squad w/ melta gun x3 100 pts
chimera w/ hull flamer and multilaser
hunter killer missile 65 pts

penial legion squad 80 pts

Leman Russ Exterminator w/ hvy bolter sponsons 170 pts


Quick, easy, and not alot of crazy stuff to go around and do. I know i will here the vendetta/valk argument, but, dont have one at the moment. just a easy list, quick to play at 500 points. the vet squad goes out and gets objectives or kills something big, the penial legion and LC hang out on an objective. The tank is there for the heavy 4 twin linked autocannon and good anti infantry load out. plus, the 14 armour is good at this point level.

I would just like to point out that for only 75 points, Hydra Flak Cannons bring the same firepower as an Exterminator, but twin-linked, 72" range, and anti-skimmer/bike, for only 75pts. The downside is only 12/10/10 armour, but it is worth mentioning for being under half-price! Camo netting goes real nice with them too.

That is a good call. Now, do i want an additional 75 points to play with, to go along with 12 front armour. Or, the armour 14. that is tough to call at 500 points.

I'd actually keep the exterminator here. At 500 points, not many things are going to all that seriously threaten AV14.

The real problem is your troops choices. At any points level, you've got to have two solid troops choices (at least) if you're going to be successful, an exterminator isn't enough of an ace in the hole by itself.

Unfortunately, to get anything resembling 2 solid troops choices, you're not going to be able to afford the exterminator.

Of course, this is somewhat moot if you're going to be playing a team game in which another person is able to bring 500 points of troops and you bring the support. If you're wanting to do 1v1's and bring exterminators, I'd start by bumping the size of your games up to at least 750.