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OK reading up on Imotekh and trying to decide if he's worth having in my army on a regular basis. I am trying to understand how his weapon will work in combat, the basic design according to the 'dex is a staff of light, but it has a different damage rules. Now for the battle this is a one use shot does this mean that when he's done that shot that's it he has no other uses with that weapon or does it simply resort back to a standard staff of light for the remainder of the game?

SGrimhart wrote:OK reading up on Imotekh and trying to decide if he's worth having in my army on a regular basis. I am trying to understand how his weapon will work in combat, the basic design according to the 'dex is a staff of light, but it has a different damage rules. Now for the battle this is a one use shot does this mean that when he's done that shot that's it he has no other uses with that weapon or does it simply resort back to a standard staff of light for the remainder of the game?

His staff of the Destroyer does not reference a staff of light anywhere in the rules, so forget anything about that.

You have one shot with the SoD, and then it's done, no more shooting attacks from it. You use his Gauntlet of flame in Close combat, and can also use it as a Flamer.

Sasori wrote:

SGrimhart wrote:OK reading up on Imotekh and trying to decide if he's worth having in my army on a regular basis. I am trying to understand how his weapon will work in combat, the basic design according to the 'dex is a staff of light, but it has a different damage rules. Now for the battle this is a one use shot does this mean that when he's done that shot that's it he has no other uses with that weapon or does it simply resort back to a standard staff of light for the remainder of the game?

His staff of the Destroyer does not reference a staff of light anywhere in the rules, so forget anything about that.

You have one shot with the SoD, and then it's done, no more shooting attacks from it. You use his Gauntlet of flame in Close combat, and can also use it as a Flamer.

But it does and I quote "this ancient and ornamental staff of light....". Reread your codex but I appreciate your answer to the one use only and the gauntlet of flame.

SGrimhart wrote:

Sasori wrote:

SGrimhart wrote:OK reading up on Imotekh and trying to decide if he's worth having in my army on a regular basis. I am trying to understand how his weapon will work in combat, the basic design according to the 'dex is a staff of light, but it has a different damage rules. Now for the battle this is a one use shot does this mean that when he's done that shot that's it he has no other uses with that weapon or does it simply resort back to a standard staff of light for the remainder of the game?

His staff of the Destroyer does not reference a staff of light anywhere in the rules, so forget anything about that.

You have one shot with the SoD, and then it's done, no more shooting attacks from it. You use his Gauntlet of flame in Close combat, and can also use it as a Flamer.

But it does and I quote "this ancient and ornamental staff of light....". Reread your codex but I appreciate your answer to the one use only and the gauntlet of flame.

Ok, that's the fluff on the staff NOT the rules.

The rules gives you a profile on it, and no where does it say anything such as *Treat as a staff of light after you've used the one shot. It could say that it was a planet breaking super staff in the paragraph you quoted, but if it doesn't have the rules to back it up, it doesn't matter.

Pretty much as fluff =/= rules unless GW says so.

Hmm OK so IMO that sux for a weapon now the gauntlet of fire is pretty cool. Thanks for the interpretation on the rule vs fluff.

It's an added bonus to the rest of his abilities... not the deciding factor in taking him...

He hits a sixth of their army every turn night fighting stays in play for D6 s8 ap5 hits... On average this happens at least twice.

On top of that, he's preventing the entire enemy army from shooting at you turn 1 (at least reliably).

Finally, he lets you seize the initiative better than most armies...

So ya, it's mediocre, but its not horrible.... It is an auto-hitting AP1 weapon still...

Doesn't he have a gauntlet of fire? Why wouldn't you use that in combat?

guantlet of fire is not a Power Weapon...
and i am thinking he wanted the staff of light on him, it is a St5 AP3 Assult 3 gun.. kinda nice...

Kitzz wrote:Doesn't he have a gauntlet of fire? Why wouldn't you use that in combat?

Not a power weapon. Initiative two. Weapon skill four. That kind of fun stuff.

Imotekh is honestly just there for "Lord of the Storm" and "Hyperlogical Strategy"........ maybe a lucky shot with Staff of the Destroyer as well, but it isn't very important.

Since Lord of the Storm doesn't matter if he's alive or dead or even on the field you really don't care about him after the game starts. He's essentially a 225 point tax for extended night-fight (plus lightning which is nice) and a 66.7% chance to get first turn.

Nungunz wrote:
Since Lord of the Storm doesn't matter if he's alive or dead or even on the field you really don't care about him after the game starts. He's essentially a 225 point tax for extended night-fight (plus lightning which is nice) and a 66.7% chance to get first turn.

Not necessarily. He's also good at catching bullets that would otherwise kill something.

Nungunz wrote:

Kitzz wrote:Doesn't he have a gauntlet of fire? Why wouldn't you use that in combat?

Not a power weapon. Initiative two. Weapon skill four. That kind of fun stuff.

Imotekh is honestly just there for "Lord of the Storm" and "Hyperlogical Strategy"........ maybe a lucky shot with Staff of the Destroyer as well, but it isn't very important.

Since Lord of the Storm doesn't matter if he's alive or dead or even on the field you really don't care about him after the game starts. He's essentially a 225 point tax for extended night-fight (plus lightning which is nice) and a 66.7% chance to get first turn.

WS 4 Doesn't matter as much when you reroll failed hits and wounds. Not being a power weapon sucks.

Yes he functions very well as a storm shield, just a shame he came without a res orb, I pretty much have to pay 75pts each game on top of his cost to give his squad 4+ res protocols and the neccessary defense of a warscythe lord for when the squad is based by Wraithlords, and Dreadnaughts.