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So lately I've been interesting in taking all of the Bretonnian parts I have laying around and making up a Bretonnian army. I realized, my old Bretonnian codex from 04(?) is the latest one? If I remember right, that was 6th edition? I'm guessing on that, I picked it up when I first got into the hobby and there was 2 new editions sense then. Is there a more recent one out or in the works or a WD that has updated rules for them?

I'd like to say no. The bret codex is pretty damn old.

The Brets are one of the oldest books left at this point. I think the Dwarves and Wood Elves are the only older ones, but I could be wrong. I know those three are all 6E books, and EVERYONE else has had a new book since then.

Yah if your book has the colored art in the front then thats the current one!

When are we due for an new book?

From what I heard not for a while. But I for one really like our book and in the right hands it does very well

For a while it was rumored that Brets would be next after Orges, Orcs, and Tomb Kings (from Warseer Harry's quote: "Fat things, green things, dead things, and those who eat frogs" or some such).

However, the current rumor has Vamps up next (okay, more dead things), and then Empire, bypassing the significanly older Bretonnian, Wood Elf, and Dwarf books. So who knows when a new book is coming.

Of course, given the direction of the new books (less magic items, and here's some big nasty monsters whether they fit your theme or not), I'm not terribly looking forward to a new Bret book. The longer they put it off the happier I'll be.

Dwarves were redone just before 7th edition(or after it, can't remember).

Bretonnians are currently the oldest army book, then Wood Elves, then Dwarves.

I'd love for them to be updated, but afaik it's VC, Empire, then Dwarves for next year.

Empire doesn't need a new codex, they already had one a few years ago. It's been my experience that new codexs (fantasy and 40k) come out based on how popular they are. I've only ever seen a couple of Bretonnia players, but lots of orc and vamps and tomb kings and ofcourse lots of empire. Maybe the low popularity is because they are seriously out dated and very limiting in their troop picks.

I do have to agree with the current way GW has been flying (fantasy and 40k) with the codexs is to give less and less customizing and wargear options... making it more streamlined and simplier for a new player to get into it. I like lots of army options, customizing options, and wargear options to make the army my own!

tilarium wrote:Empire doesn't need a new codex, they already had one a few years ago. It's been my experience that new codexs (fantasy and 40k) come out based on how popular they are.

They don't, if they did Dark Eldar and NEcrons would never have gotten the releases they did, since they defeinitely weren't popular before their relaunch. The way it works, is a studio member comes up with a pitch for a new book, prospective models, etc. If it gets approved, he gets the resources to work on it.

The fact that Brettonians and Wood Elves haven't had a book in so long is more about no ine in the studio being interested in doing the book at the moment.

Ok, that settles it then! I'm going to go work for GW.... new Bretonnian and new Imperial Guard! Brets cause they are pretty cool and need an update and new Guard that's more like the old Guard cause it was better then the new Guard.... LOL

We really do not need a update. I mean maybe cheaper M@A but other than that they can keep their new book

tilarium wrote:Ok, that settles it then! I'm going to go work for GW.... new Bretonnian and new Imperial Guard! Brets cause they are pretty cool and need an update and new Guard that's more like the old Guard cause it was better then the new Guard.... LOL

Good luck getting support on that one... Current Guard seem to be one of the most popular, best selling, better performing and most loved of all 40K Codexes!

Vulcan wrote:The Brets are one of the oldest books left at this point. I think the Dwarves and Wood Elves are the only older ones, but I could be wrong. I know those three are all 6E books, and EVERYONE else has had a new book since then.

Brets 2003
Dwarves 2005
Wood Elves 2005


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-Loki- wrote:

tilarium wrote:Empire doesn't need a new codex, they already had one a few years ago. It's been my experience that new codexs (fantasy and 40k) come out based on how popular they are.

They don't, if they did Dark Eldar and NEcrons would never have gotten the releases they did, since they defeinitely weren't popular before their relaunch. The way it works, is a studio member comes up with a pitch for a new book, prospective models, etc. If it gets approved, he gets the resources to work on it.

The fact that Brettonians and Wood Elves haven't had a book in so long is more about no ine in the studio being interested in doing the book at the moment.

What happened to Mat Ward's love of Wood Elves?

rockerbikie wrote:

Vulcan wrote:The Brets are one of the oldest books left at this point. I think the Dwarves and Wood Elves are the only older ones, but I could be wrong. I know those three are all 6E books, and EVERYONE else has had a new book since then.

Brets 2003
Dwarves 2005
Wood Elves 2005


Automatically Appended Next Post:

-Loki- wrote:

tilarium wrote:Empire doesn't need a new codex, they already had one a few years ago. It's been my experience that new codexs (fantasy and 40k) come out based on how popular they are.

They don't, if they did Dark Eldar and NEcrons would never have gotten the releases they did, since they defeinitely weren't popular before their relaunch. The way it works, is a studio member comes up with a pitch for a new book, prospective models, etc. If it gets approved, he gets the resources to work on it.

The fact that Brettonians and Wood Elves haven't had a book in so long is more about no ine in the studio being interested in doing the book at the moment.

What happened to Mat Ward's love of Wood Elves?

Personal theory is that they don't want to touch wood elves, as finding a new and interesting way to integrate their playstyle into 8th would be rather challenging. They don't play like other armies. WE players don't want them too, but if you just make them worth their points than those really great WE players would be back to picking apart everyone. Not sure about you guys, but I remember 6th edition WE players picking people apart in giant games of ring around the dead things.

6th ed. WE were horrid. I agree that making them work in the current meta game is a challenge, but that shouldn't be an excuse to shelf the army entirely.

I suppose Brets would take some work to make them better against steadfast hordes and the like. I don't understand why Empire is getting done so soon, as they perform just fine and have a number of good builds in this edition.

Making Brets better against steadfast would be easy. Make the 100+ point Banner of the Lady remove steadfast, along with rank bonuses to combat resolution.

Then all that can go wrong is 'rubber lance syndrome'.

Aerethan wrote:6th ed. WE were horrid. I agree that making them work in the current meta game is a challenge, but that shouldn't be an excuse to shelf the army entirely.

I suppose Brets would take some work to make them better against steadfast hordes and the like. I don't understand why Empire is getting done so soon, as they perform just fine and have a number of good builds in this edition.

It is because Wood Elf books are released every 9 years. 1996-2005. The next book for Wood Elves will be in 2014. I think they will get removed for in favour of Cathay or be released in 2014.

I'm in the same boat with the Bretonnians being my favorite army. I just get back into things in the last month or so and find out that the army book I bought back in 2003 is still current. I saw that 8th Edition came out recently so I was looking around to see if I should hold off for a new book. Sounds like I shouldn't hold my breathe. On the upside it seems that the Bretonnians are still competitive. Could stand to get some newer models at least.

The issue is that GW chooses army updates based on popularity not need, so these armies wont be updated until the more popular armies stop producing cash for them.
And dont tease about a cathay army that would be amazing and i would sell kidney to buy up every model released for them.

Spazz wrote:The issue is that GW chooses army updates based on popularity not need, so these armies wont be updated until the more popular armies stop producing cash for them.
And dont tease about a cathay army that would be amazing and i would sell kidney to buy up every model released for them.

I counter that argument with dark eldar, necrons, and tomb kings. None of the above were very popular before their new books. Now you can't go 5 minutes without a new DE player popping up.

Brets are still really good. They are very much a finese army instead of a hit-you-in-the-face like they used to be. Multi-charges from lances, whittling down from treb support, M@A supported with magic (S5 T4 makes a dent), and use them to help mitigate steadfast problems. At least lances can be deep enough to disrupt with a flank charge. Personally, painted up, I believe them to be one of the sharpest looking armies too. Very few things are as beautiful as a full lance formation with a streaming banner, its cinematic really. Now all they need to do is put the knights back in knight school to figure out how to use their lances. Cuz in my experience bret knights are there to give the horses a 2+ while their off dudley doo righting.