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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/08 20:19:43
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Swamp Troll
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Ok I am little to get a little bit of a discussion going on here about something I read in the codex and if maybe it is something cooler then we thought.
The Wording in questions states "When Wazdakka uses a Turbo Boost he may still fire his Weapons(Plural sense) that turn.
Could this mean that Wazdakka could fire more then just his Dakkakannon...Because why else would they give him a KMB? I read this and found myself thinking that maybe, just maybe we could have a strong character for our Ork Biker Lists.
Come Dakka lets hear what you think.
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Successful Trades 84 (Dakka Swap Shop)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/08 20:22:54
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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He doesn't have permission in his rules to fire more than the normal number of weapons, so is restricted to firing one weapon per turn as normal.
He can choose which of his various weapons to fire, though, which is presumably why the rule you quoted uses a plural.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/12/08 20:23:08
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/08 20:36:39
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Swamp Troll
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So you think it would def be stated that he could be able to fire more then just one weapon?
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Successful Trades 84 (Dakka Swap Shop)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/08 20:39:49
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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It would have to be, since otherwise models are explicitly restricted to a single weapon each turn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/08 20:41:04
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Swamp Troll
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Makes sense, Just thought the wording made it sound that as a IC he had a cool rule to make him somewhat even more useful when turbo boosting.
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Successful Trades 84 (Dakka Swap Shop)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/08 21:17:10
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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It is worded that way as to not limit which weapon he can fire after turboboosting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/08 21:25:42
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Swamp Troll
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I see this now, but after no sleep and scrolling thru the codex...I got kinda excited lolz
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Successful Trades 84 (Dakka Swap Shop)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/09 02:32:20
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Guardsman with Flashlight
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the reason he has that kustom mega blasta is only because he is a mek....if you look...he also has meks tools
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2011 Tournament Record: W:39 D:5 L:4
Catachan Jungle Fighters-3,000 Points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/09 02:40:53
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Hey... to those who played in 4ed (Ork Codex is 4th Ed), was Wazzie more effective?
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/09 03:07:48
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Swamp Troll
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I did see that, but thought maybe the KMB served some greater purpose!
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Successful Trades 84 (Dakka Swap Shop)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/09 14:01:04
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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He is effective, not as a particularly amazing beatstick and deathstar, but because he makes bikers troops. Having to face 100+ bikes at 'ard boyz will ruin almost anybody's day.
-cgmckenzie
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1500 pts
3000 pts
4-5k+pts
======Begin Dakka Geek Code======
DS:80-S+G++M+++B+IPw40k10#++D++A+++/hWD387R+++T(D)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/09 21:22:08
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Swamp Troll
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cgmckenzie wrote:He is effective, not as a particularly amazing beatstick and deathstar, but because he makes bikers troops. Having to face 100+ bikes at 'ard boyz will ruin almost anybody's day.
-cgmckenzie
That would be AWESOME!
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Successful Trades 84 (Dakka Swap Shop)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/09 23:14:28
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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I do that sometimes,
I call them Da Green Skars...
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/09 23:48:59
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Swamp Troll
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that is a really good idea, only issue would be the purchasing of all those bikes!
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Successful Trades 84 (Dakka Swap Shop)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/10 01:42:33
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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It does cost a wodge. It took me ages, and a lot of money, to get all mine together.
My regular bikers are the old ones with the spiky hats and wide cannon half-track-bikes.
My Nob bikers are the new models. It helps me keep track of who is who
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/10 06:38:04
Subject: Re:Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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It is my dream ork list- 72 troop bikes, 36 elite, wazdakka, a battle wagon, and a handful of nob bikers. Mmm, so much shooty green on the field...
-cgmckenzie
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1500 pts
3000 pts
4-5k+pts
======Begin Dakka Geek Code======
DS:80-S+G++M+++B+IPw40k10#++D++A+++/hWD387R+++T(D)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/10 20:04:04
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Swamp Troll
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That sounds like a super quick list!
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Successful Trades 84 (Dakka Swap Shop)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/11 18:47:16
Subject: Re:Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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cgmckenzie wrote:It is my dream ork list- 72 troop bikes, 36 elite, wazdakka, a battle wagon, and a handful of nob bikers. Mmm, so much shooty green on the field...
-cgmckenzie
Sadly you'd be facing destroyer weapons which simply nuke bikers to bits.
On the upside, that army is still cheaper than starting sisters of battle
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/11 22:13:52
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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That isn't apocalypse, its standard 2500.
-cgmckenzie
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1500 pts
3000 pts
4-5k+pts
======Begin Dakka Geek Code======
DS:80-S+G++M+++B+IPw40k10#++D++A+++/hWD387R+++T(D)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/11 22:42:58
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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You could get 72 troop bikers, 30 elite Nob bikers, 36 fast attack bikers, wazdakka and a bikerboss on the field at once, but the points would be a bit high (3000 ish? )
140 bikers is a hell of a bikergang
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/12 20:56:16
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Swamp Troll
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That's not a gang but a army! LOLZ
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Successful Trades 84 (Dakka Swap Shop)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/12 21:34:29
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Unfortunately i don't have enough bikers (yet) to do that.
I have 36 FA bikes, and 30 Nob bikes, plus wazzdakka, bikerboss and about a dozen spare bikers.
All 72 troop bikes (60 more  ) would make a crater in my wallet it'd not appreciate, but some day...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/12/12 21:36:13
The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/13 00:59:22
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Swamp Troll
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So do you have pictures of your bikers? I would like to see the different Nobz and FA bikers ya have!
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Successful Trades 84 (Dakka Swap Shop)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/13 02:12:55
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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I'll try to get some pics sorted out when i can. Camera needs emptying and recharging. Perhaps tomorrow or the next day.
Most of them are primed or unpainted though, as i'm a slow as hell painter with a lot of orks to work on...  Some are partial conversions also, as i've not had time to find all the right gubbins yet
I think my spare 12 are in simple green right now, so i'll leave them be
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/14 00:38:57
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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cgmckenzie wrote:That isn't apocalypse, its standard 2500.
-cgmckenzie
A biker is 25, so 108 bikers are already 2700, not including nobz, PKs, boss poles.
Add wazdakka, a battlewagon and a useful unit of nob bikerz(let's say five with upgrades and a warboss as babysitter), and with close to 4000 points, you are well into apoc territory.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/14 00:47:00
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Swamp Troll
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Jidmah wrote:cgmckenzie wrote:That isn't apocalypse, its standard 2500.
-cgmckenzie
A biker is 25, so 108 bikers are already 2700, not including nobz, PKs, boss poles.
Add wazdakka, a battlewagon and a useful unit of nob bikerz(let's say five with upgrades and a warboss as babysitter), and with close to 4000 points, you are well into apoc territory.
^Makes a good point!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/14 03:56:32
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Hmm, ill have to look at my list again cause I thought that worked out.
-cgmckenzie
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1500 pts
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4-5k+pts
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DS:80-S+G++M+++B+IPw40k10#++D++A+++/hWD387R+++T(D)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/14 06:04:25
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Cutthroatcure wrote:So do you have pictures of your bikers? I would like to see the different Nobz and FA bikers ya have!
https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=1086c6b14b4228f6&resid=1086C6B14B4228F6!587&parid=1086C6B14B4228F6!164&authkey=!AH6YDq8u0nwnrbQ
Apologies for the lousy camera-fu and poor lighting. My game room is pretty dim, and i'm not at home in daylight.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/12/14 06:09:00
The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/14 06:17:54
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Swamp Troll
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That is a lot of bikes even there!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/14 06:20:51
Subject: Wazdakka Gutsmek
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Yup.. Just a few
Hunting up another 60 old-school bikes isn't high on my priorities list (need a few other odds and sods first) but it's in the cards, someday
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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