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So this is my first shot at trying to make my army at a competitive / tournement level here it is at 1750 pts ill be trying out tom

HQ

165- CCS- plasmax4, chimera(HHF/Ml)

Troop

155- Vet1-melta x3,chimera(HHF/Ml)

155- Vet2-melta x3,chimera(HHF/Ml)

155- Vet3-melta x3,chimera(HHF/Ml)

155- Vet4-melta x3,chimera(HHF/Ml)

Fast

130- Vendetta1

130- Vendetta2

Heavy

160- Mantacore1

160- Mantacore2

380- LRExecutioner x2

1745 pts

C&C please tell me what you guys think

Great list. I run a similar one.

Wow!! Look! It is another exact list as any other IG list on here. Realy, this is your first attempt? It looks like almost every other IG out. Realy, did you put thought into that or just look up another list and copy it. Good job on that.

well it was more of trying to polish the list

martin74 wrote:Wow!! Look! It is another exact list as any other IG list on here. Realy, this is your first attempt? It looks like almost every other IG out. Realy, did you put thought into that or just look up another list and copy it. Good job on that.

Haters gonna hate. Learn to spell and how to use proper grammar before trolling on people for "not putting any thought into that" because that's exactly what you just did.

Anyways, the list looks great. I'm always a huge fan of melta-vets.
Be sure to let us know how it does when you play it!

martin74 wrote:Wow!! Look! It is another exact list as any other IG list on here. Realy, this is your first attempt? It looks like almost every other IG out. Realy, did you put thought into that or just look up another list and copy it. Good job on that.

So, you just posted to insult? Really? This is Dakka. We insult and give advice!

I like the list as well. If you decide to switch things out, i'd try running 2 LRBT with HHB.
Then use some of the left over points to upgrade some vets to plasma.

Have fun, and let us know how it goes!

i got in 2 games saturday, the first was against my space wolf friend and he was running 2 mirror long fange sq with 2 lasC and 2 plasC and a HB and for big squads of reg. sq woth meltas and Pfists and Pweapons and 3 ruinpriets with the 5+ cover save psychic power and I tore him apart before he touched me Besides a scout sq that got a devil dog and a mantacore

the second game was a tie between me the spacewolf player (drop podded this game) and a cheese necron player with 2 ctan shards and basic other cheese and the hq that makes lighting that makes my mech army cry

the big thing in the list to me is the heavys ability to make both hod and heavy troops die
what you guys think

martin74 wrote:Wow!! Look! It is another exact list as any other IG list on here. Realy, this is your first attempt? It looks like almost every other IG out. Realy, did you put thought into that or just look up another list and copy it. Good job on that.

lol love how I've seen your lists and they are so trashy. At least this guys list is competitive and solid.

lordoooge wrote:i got in 2 games saturday, the first was against my space wolf friend and he was running 2 mirror long fange sq with 2 lasC and 2 plasC and a HB and for big squads of reg. sq woth meltas and Pfists and Pweapons and 3 ruinpriets with the 5+ cover save psychic power and I tore him apart before he touched me Besides a scout sq that got a devil dog and a mantacore

the second game was a tie between me the spacewolf player (drop podded this game) and a cheese necron player with 2 ctan shards and basic other cheese and the hq that makes lighting that makes my mech army cry

the big thing in the list to me is the heavys ability to make both hod and heavy troops die
what you guys think

Did you make any changes not listed?
you said he got a Devil Dog, but the above list doesn't show it?

On the one hand, that guy was a rude dick, granted, but i dont know if you can call it trolling, typically trolling is done for the soul purpose of making people mad, whereas this guy seems to be trying to make a point, albeit in a tactless way. I know what this guy is saying, almost all the lists for IG put up are cookie cutters of spam, seriously, at 1750, he has 5 different types of units

command
vet
valk
manticore
executioner


it gets kind of old reading the same thing over and over again, especially when you are just writing the same thing seen on the internet, and where the reader knows more or less what is going to be in the list. Again, its rare to find a list that is not going to include at least 4 of those 5 spammed units. There isn't really any point in just reposting the same list that will have like 1 or 2 tweaks from every other guard list on the internet, if those lists were called good, this one will prolly make the grade. If someone comes and asks for advice on a less hackneyed list, like an all infantry list, or one using non conventional weapons like sentinels, hell hounds, rough riders, penal legions, conscripts, any other type of hound, anything from the heavy artillery section (basalisk variants), lord commisars, primaris psychers, ogryns, techpriests, ratlings, veterans with weapons that aren't meltas or plasmas then there would be room for more creative comments, but what do you want us to say, im sure everyone posting here can say that they have seen almost this exact list in some form or another somewhere out in the internet. Sorry if this is itself a repost of an over used rant, but i do feel like it is applicable. Im not mad, im just trying to be reasonable.


However, as also previously stated, it is the custom here to criticize and comment so here it goes.


This list is strong, it has devastating long range fire power, and it only gets worse for the enemy when they get closer. The only real caveat is that this list is a cookie cutter of many others, which means that when people hear that you play guard, they will know what to expect, and they will have built their lists with this list in mind, and will have a strategy to counter it, this is not to say though that it will not win, it is a very strong list.

im 10 points over with the second vendetta and i dont have a second model so i was running a devil dog yes this is a cookie cutter list but if you have ever played any other competative activity in the world there are peramiters like rules or codexs. There are things that work and things that dont and in the ig codex i would be an idiot to run somthing like ogryns. but like anything else thats competative like racing cars you can cheat or rub and work on the little things to go faster or do better. so im looking for advice like balancing the army out im trying to polish this list. ty to those that take the time to help and well if you want to complain ok the title says competative Ig did you think it was going to be a foot slogger list

I like running 2 platoons with 8 heavy weapons squads... But then again I try not to cheese out to the max

I like the list.
I would consider dropping 1 executioner for one squad of plasma vets (maybe with lascannon then the points fit), or possibly dropping it for a hellhound. (with 60pts to spend elsewhere)

How is the executioner squadron doing for you? Is it worth it having two of them in a squad (i mean 380pts is a lot)?

I would agree that the plasma russes squadrons may be an unwise choice. On the one hand, you ingore shaken and stunned, that is huge, on the other hand, immobilized results kill you, and i can't think of that many units in the game that 2 executioners wont be over kill for. And there are other ways to run competitive guard other than a parking lot, its just a lot more difficult.

It's definitively a competitive list from what I've seen other people post.

But on a personal note, I ran a mech vet list a week ago, and I must say it's the most boring game I've played to date. I don't play tournaments, and I don't play specifically to win (I play to have fun, and if I win, that's a nice bonus), so I run lists that are fun to play, and I just hated playing this kind of list despite how powerful it is. Not sure why I found it so boring, but it may be the cookie cutter aspect, or it may be because it's so specialized you end up doing the same thing over and over. It's a list designed to be good at one thing (more or less), so you're stuck with (more or less) a single strategy.

Again, it's just a personal preference, but I enjoy games where I can shake things up a bit by doing something unexpected, and the mech vet list is a brute force tactic which leaves little room for finesse.

the executioners a great for the 2 games ive played trying to kill a squad of hard and heavy troops like termies, ect.. and being able to deal with it quick i came to desire the executioner because when fighting againts heavy troops trying to melt faces off with a couple of melta guns can make you volnerable. at 1750 i have run it to alot of cheese armys with way to many 2+ saves and being able to deal with that fast and effective is great and it is one aspect of this army that is lacking.

yes this army can be boring every game its how am i going to shoot you before you get to me but thats any army to an extent but this is my competative army and my speed freaks are all fun

the big questions in this amy to me is what should i use the last heavy slot for after 2 manta core and the plasma melta vet rato and the fast attack slots

btw i have been wanting to try 3 sq of two demolishers i think it would be funny