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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/11 13:27:27
Subject: mind shackle scarabs and "random"
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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so the rules say "randomly select a unit" in base contact but how do you actually select things randomly? If I have an IC along with some say 2 regular marines piled in with the MSS unit all in base to base, I'm almost sure the necron player would pick the IC due to him usually being better, but what's to let me say, "no, you randomly got the marine with a combat knife" instead?
how are you guys resolving this issue?
Also, say I have a MC charge into a unit that was already in combat with something that had MSS. And he took over the MC "randomly" somehow... the MC isn't part of the unit so he can only hit himself right?
Replace the above with MC for the same scenario as above with IC but I decided to split him off and have him join in the attack afterwards. I.e. broke unit coherency in movement phase, origional unit charge the MSS unit, resolve combat, then the IC charge the same unit on the same turn, what is supposed to happen? (just for discussion sake, he charged the MSS unit again from another direction. Do you get to fire off the MSS again and would you only be able to get the IC or can you "random" it back onto one of the origional squad who, being a seperate unit cannot hit the IC who is a unit of just himself at this time?)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/12/11 13:28:39
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/11 13:35:40
Subject: mind shackle scarabs and "random"
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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Random means random. In case of 2-6 models roll a d6. For 7 or more be a bit inventive. I have downloaded a random number generator just in case.
But be prepared, a good necron player will be BtB with only the model he wishes to shackle..
As for ICs and MCs, yes they hit themselves if they are not part of a unit at the time of the assault.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/11 13:59:36
Subject: mind shackle scarabs and "random"
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Random means random, not arbitrary. Why is this such a difficult concept? We generate random results every game....
Currently ICs, MCs and anything that is its own unit would hit themselves, so mephiston, sanguinor, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/11 14:10:01
Subject: mind shackle scarabs and "random"
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PanOceaniac Hacking Specialist Sergeant
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nosferatu1001 wrote:Random means random, not arbitrary. Why is this such a difficult concept? We generate random results every game....
Currently ICs, MCs and anything that is its own unit would hit themselves, so mephiston, sanguinor, etc.
If im not mistaken a model cannot target itself... but i sure hope im wrong
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/12/11 14:10:37
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/11 14:26:50
Subject: mind shackle scarabs and "random"
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The model isnt targetting itself, it is hitting itself. MSS inflict HITS
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/11 23:28:20
Subject: mind shackle scarabs and "random"
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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As a newcomer to warhammer 40,00 and a necron player, how does one make sure his lord is only in contact with say, a squad seargent with a power sword or a commissar?
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"Surrender and Die."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/12 00:22:34
Subject: Re:mind shackle scarabs and "random"
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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Its all about setting up charges and where you place your lord before you charge.
X=target
M=MSS
If the target is on the end of the unit you want to charge, you set your lord off to the side away from the unit.
0000X
nnnn M
If the target is on the middle of the unit you want to charge, you set your lord in front of the target with guys on the both sides of him try to leave no space for anyone else to touch the lord
00X00
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If possible you can detach the MSS from the group and move to the far side with the group acting as a screen from anyone touching the lord .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/12 04:26:34
Subject: Re:mind shackle scarabs and "random"
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
United States of America
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You can't set it up to hit an IC and not have to randomly allocate the Scarab's. When you charge in, if the IC is in a squad, the squad has to charge into CC as well meaning you now have 2 or more units you have to assign the scarabs too potentially.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/12 04:43:51
Subject: mind shackle scarabs and "random"
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Unless of course you are with a unit yourself, and you have already based any other model that could reach base with your MSS model, or simply prevented them from basing your MSS model by enclosing your MSS model
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