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I was just curious does anyone know if there is a Paint Can of Chaos Black available that is exactly what GW uses, but just without the GW label? GW paint is too expensive, but I like how the GW paint "behaves" when I spray it. Thanks!

Edit:

I know Chaos Black isn't a primer. I just need a spray can that's the exact same paint in a different bottle if it exists. At the moment I'm thinking that GW Chaos Black is essentially Krylon Flat Black? Am I wrong? Thanks!

It used to be Krylon Flat Black, but I believe they changed suppliers a few years back.

Are you referring to this?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41%2BM6NJY7BL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Halfords black primer, or better grey primer, anything from Monster which is good. There are a lot of good ones on the market.

Don't think it's GW's formula, but Duplicolor auto primer works great, even on unwashed resin (yep, tried it) - it's identical to Formula P3 and runs about $8 USD a can. Nice fan-shaped spray pattern, too, so better contol and less waste.

Any matt black primer will do a better job than GW chaos black paint. It's not a primer as such although some use it as such.

I always see Yanks posting about Krylon that they get from Walwart for a few bucks.

cjharrisman wrote:Halfords black primer, or better grey primer, anything from Monster which is good. There are a lot of good ones on the market.

This.

It's the same price as GW's (last time I checked) but you get loads more and it adheres really well. Halford's stuff is the way forward!

+1 Halfords....Comes in a 500ml can too.

I'm not really looking for something that's better...my problem is that I do Black using GW Chaos Black and it gives a really nice surface for the Tamiya Spray cans to adhere to. I was hoping to duplicate the same surface with another paint, but at this point its looking like the closest thing is Krylon Matte Black. I'm going to give it a shot and see how it turns out.

Krylon does a good primer, just make sure you do the PRIMER first.

PAINT is NOT PRIMER

Get yourself a Krylon primer of whatever color (grey or black, it doesn't matter), then grab your spray can of flat or satin black (I use Krylon for everything, so I whip out my black Krylon spraypaint- see aforementioned link)

Now you've got a nice, black mini ready to splatter with artistic talent... or splatter like a 4 year old with fingerpaints, whichever you prefer....

Edit: Not 2 seconds after the post, i forgot to mention: Rustoleum is a good primer-paint as well. Just remember, as with all spray cans, you gotta find the sweet spot for the perfect coverage. Keep your hand moving, overlap sprays, keep a good distance, watch the weather for barometer and humidity and etc, ya know?

Good luck

GW does not make or sell a primer spray. They sell paint. I'm tired of explaining this every week.

I already know that GW Chaos Black isn't primer. I just typed it in anways out of habit..

What I'm looking for is something that imitates GW's Chaos Black exactly. It gives the best texture in my opinion for what I do with my tanks since I spray red on top of them afterwards with Tamiya. I've tried Rustoleum since I had some around the house and the can was far from what I want. The red that I sprayed on top of the Rustoleum was completely different in texture and look than what I've done before. It was just a waste of paint imo.

I'm hoping that Krylon Flat Black is GW Chaos Black with a different label.

Figmaniac wrote:Don't think it's GW's formula, but Duplicolor auto primer works great, even on unwashed resin (yep, tried it) - it's identical to Formula P3 and runs about $8 USD a can. Nice fan-shaped spray pattern, too, so better contol and less waste.

I'll second that. It doesn't go on as thick as GW paint though so you might have to do more passes to get a model covered completely.

As for what the OP is asking, I guess the safest thing to do would be to keep buying GW paint then, since trying to figure out what paint they've re-branded is likely going to be expensive and frustrating.

I've used Army Painter Black Primer recently, and to be honest i don't know what to think of it. It's very like GW Chaos Black, it comes out as much finer more dispersed spray, where as Chaos black used to come out like a blast with the slightest pressure.

I must admit I like the so called colour Primers from Army Painter, I like the fact I am cutting steps out of the painting process getting a nice even flat base colour. Then a quick drybrush with lighter tones, then an extremely light drybrush, then some detailing, then a wash to bring it together and a final super detail, and varnish. Done, i've cut out the priming black/grey/white and saved money, no change to quality of output.

Wal Marts Color Place paints work fine and cost a whopping $1.

The brand of paint is far less important than the technique in applying it.

As for texture, I'm not sure I want a paint to be texturing my models.