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UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
@lookylikey reread my post, in it I say to use kickstarter for new sculpts. To not sell existing sculpts as kickstarter add ons (these sales can go to boosting retail sales) and to do an occasional 'retail exclusive' sculpt from reserved profit. If you have fixed costs like premises and staff to cover relying soley on kickstarter funds is not security.

I'm not saying don't use kickstarter, I'm saying build retail channels and narrow the scope of the kickstarters to create a more stable financial base.

If you don't see securing a businesses financial future as a good thing then you have some pretty odd ideas.or perhaps you would rather just get cheap shinies now and not worry about later?

As for WIPs you see plenty during the campaigns as well as concept art all of which has to be paid for. Remember there is a significant delay between the start of the campaign and funds being transferred.

@alpharius the trouble is if all sales (back catalogue included) go through kickstarter there is little incentive for retailers to pick up that line even with a rule set. Retailers will be loathe to buy into a line where it will be difficult to move as the parent company keeps selling the back catalogue at large discounts.

I think your overlooking how small Darklands is at the moment. They are going to release their 5th Kickstarter and they still do not have a complete rulebook or all of their factions sculpted. Their first campaign was over a year ago and its getting closer to two years. Sitting on older sculpts in anticipation of retail some day is unrealistic in my opinion. I agree with you though that going retail will make them more stable. Just not in the deck of cards right now.
   
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@malkaven it's a simple case that if they don't sell older existing sculpts at a large discount as kickstarter add ons there will be more demand in retail channels for these items. This will build up a relationship with retailers. Attract more people to the kickstarters for new models, not everyone goes on forums. As well as generally increasing there presence in the market place.

Kickstarter still has it's place but it will be a much easier transition in future if they start working more heavily with retailers in the build up to the game 'going live' so to speak.

   
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UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:


Retail prices lower than kickstarter prices, well that's news to everyone on the planet.



To be pedantic, it can be at a certain level. If you're buying big, yes buying at KS prices will be cheaper. However, if you went in at the £10 level because you liked one of the figures and if you were US based you'd have to pay £10 shipping on top of it. However, if you waited 6-9 months, chances are you'd be able to get it from the Warstore or CMON cheaper when they get the trade orders in. Even if you went in for £50, with the £10 shipping on top, waiting may still be a good option. Same with any Kickstarter really - going big is usually cheaper unless you just want the exclusives.
   
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UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
@malkaven it's a simple case that if they don't sell older existing sculpts at a large discount as kickstarter add ons there will be more demand in retail channels for these items. This will build up a relationship with retailers. Attract more people to the kickstarters for new models, not everyone goes on forums. As well as generally increasing there presence in the market place.

Kickstarter still has it's place but it will be a much easier transition in future if they start working more heavily with retailers in the build up to the game 'going live' so to speak.


Yeah I hear ya and agree. Having so many KS'er offering cheap older products will hurt them in the long run. Sadly though I really don't know if Darklands will ever see retail.
   
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They *might* be 'waiting' for the Rulebook to be complete before taking those steps, maybe?

It would be good to have that available to seed into shops along with miniatures.

Once they can do that, we might see the end of 'Cheap Shiny' from the back catalog in Mierce Kickstarters? (And to be honest, there' little 'cheap' about anything in the Darklands range! )

Because this:

@malkaven it's a simple case that if they don't sell older existing sculpts at a large discount as kickstarter add ons there will be more demand in retail channels for these items. This will build up a relationship with retailers. Attract more people to the kickstarters for new models, not everyone goes on forums.


sounds like a good idea!

Though I'd bet that is said 'people' aren't using forums, they'd have a hard time finding Mierce's Kickstarters too!
   
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@zedmeister to be pedantic shipping does not affect the price of the item, simply to cost to purchase. Therefore does not affect the margins of the product being sold by the manufacturer.

@alpharius that's why you stuff flyers regarding kickstarters in your retail products as they go out to retailers, it becomes another advertising channel.

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Fair does. Just thinking from the point of view of a curious Kickstarter Backer.

As if on cue, here's a batch of new retail releases for stuff produced for their 2nd Kickstarter:



October Releases, and Darklands: New Kindreds!

With our first Kickstarter project - Darklands: A World of War - totally complete, with all the miniatures, rules and accessories produced and available for you to purchase right now, it's time to turn our attention to the miniatures, rules and accessories produced by the project after that, Darklands: First Edition, which is about two-thirds complete. As there's so much to release - around seventy new miniatures from this project alone - we're intending to bring you at least eight items per month for the foreseeable future, one release per kindred, so that everybody's got something to look forward to as each month goes by. We're also intending to have each miniature painted before its release!

As well as that, we bring you news of our next Kickstarter project, Darklands: New Kindreds, which begins next week and will enable you to get your hands on some Atalantes and some Érainn!

Back to the present... in this set of releases, the first, we have some absolute stunners! For the Albainn we have the lovely Dúngal on foot, a warlord; the Angelcynn get Eadric on foot, another warlord; then there's Ffion Ferddig for the Brythoniaid, a bard warchief; the half-demon warlord Erebius is the first release for the Byzantii since Ulmons; the Fomoraic are joined by the awesome Daarkan, a warchief; the Khthones get their first Sávrar, a warchief called Ágriosávra; the Norse enjoy the stunningly brilliant Jörmungand, the first Troll warchief; and the Ysians have the menacing warlord, Crom on Foot, to contend with...

Unfortunately, just like the last year's releases, thanks to us being busier than busy bees we've just not had the time to get the release art and descriptions done; but you can still see some good images of each miniature on the website of course.

Dúngal on Foot, Mormaer of Dun Durn



Sculpted by a newcomer to our range - Olivier Nkweti - from the artwork by Sam Lamont, Dúngal on Foot is the first release for the Albainn in a good long while and is a cracking little miniature that is chock-full of character. Darklands: First Edition gave us more Albainn, of course, and Dúngal is a warlord, and so he's a good start to any Albainn host - especially as your first pick should be your general! Painted by Martin Grandbarbe.

Eadric on Foot, Forthegn of Mierce



With Penda such a huge, unmistakeable miniature, we though it would be a good idea to give Angelcynn generals the option of a more human warlord to use as their general. That doesn't mean Eadric - sculpted brilliantly by another newcomer to Darklands, Stéphane Camosseto, from the artwork by Des Hanley, and painted here by Martin Grandbarbe - is any less marvellous, and he's a true son of Mierce, too, evidenced by his large belly and travel-size barrel of beer... don't mess with him after closing time!

Ffion Ferddig, Bard of Gwynedd



Let's get the pronunciation out of the way: Ffion Ferddig is pronounced FFEE-on VER-th [as in the] ig. Right? Right. Now, Ffion is a bard, a musician and story teller who inspires the men of Gwynedd to greater heights of glory and as such can be very useful to a Darklands general. She's also a cracking sculpt to boot - Juan Navarro Pérez takes the honours here, along with the artist, Dan Warren! Painted by Martin Grandbarbe again.

Erebius, Demiurion



Rejoice, Byzantii fanatics... for the first new release for your kindred for many years is finally here! Erebius is a Demiurion, a centurion who is devolving into a demon of Infernus although, whilst he is half-man and half-demon, he is still a highly effective general. Sculpted by the fantastic Tre Manor from the artwork by Stef Kopinski, and painted by Martin Grandbarbe, Erebius is the perfect start to your Byzantii host!

Daarkan, Tain of Baalor



The talent of Jacques-Alexandre Gillois shines through in this, the first miniature sculpted by him (from the artwork by Stefan Kopinski) for a while; Daarkan is just amazing, and Sébastien Picque's paintjob is the icing on the cake. A warchief, Daarkan and his Soul Axe will ensure your Fomoraic host can perform some nasty things upon the enemy as well as looking brilliant!

Ágriosávra, Sun Warrior



The Khthones are not just about snakes or crocodiles, for the Atalantes created and enslaved virtually every form of reptile they could find on their crumbling islands - and here's the first of the Khthones lizards, the Sávrar, slightly bigger than humans but very quick and very nasty. Ágriosávra is a warchief, a commander, and is a fantastic sculpt by Roberto Chaudon from the artwork by Christophe Madura! The lovely paintwork is by Sébastien Picque.

Jörmungand, Troll Jarl



We've known for many years that Allan Carrasco is an amazing sculptor, but even we couldn't believe our eyes when we saw Jörmungand for the first time. Created from the artwork by Stefan Kopinski, our first Troll warchief - a Jarl - is absolutely stunning, a sublime miniature from a master of his art, and very large indeed! Suffice to say that Jörmungand will grace both the tabletop and your painting collection....

Crom of Carn Wrach, War-Drune on Foot



Whilst we do have some excellent Ysian generals already, we couldn't resist creating Crom. Why wouldn't you? With a brutal glaive, an arrogant stance and some fantastic head trophies, not to mention those massive muscles and that long-horn helm, Crom fits the Ysian (and particularly the Kernowek) stereotype very well indeed. Sculpted by the Ysian-master Stéphane Simon from the artwork by Danny Cruz, and painted here by Martin Grandbarbe.

All of the releases above will be officially released on the 4th of October 2014, but you can pre-order them now from this very website to your heart's content!

Darklands: New Kindreds is launched on Monday!

Our next fantastic project, Darklands: New Kindreds, will be launched on Monday the 15th of September at 6pm, and it's all about bringing new kindreds to the world of Darklands!

This project has been mooted for a long while simply because Darklands has ten main kindreds, two of which - the Atalantes and Érainn - have not yet been explored, even though there's lots of interest in them. Now's the time to redress that! You'll find a ton of stuff to fund for those two kindreds - from warlords to infantry units to monstrous beasts - and there'll also be plenty for anyone who loves our existing kindreds.

The main rewards will be based around Starter Hosts, rather like Darklands: a World of War. There will be at least two Starter Hosts for each of the new kindreds - one that contains infantry, and one containing monstrous infantry - as well as options to include generals, commanders, sorcerers, monstrous beasts and much else besides. They'll also include dice and tokens as required, to get you started immediately!

You've got a few days to wait yet, but if you're interested, head on over to one of our other projects on Kickstarter, such as Darklands: First Edition II, and have a look around!

Watch out for more news of that project on Monday, and don't forget - there'll be more releases next month, too!

   
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Looky Likey

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
@lookylikey like I already said in my post reserved profit for the occasional straight to release item. One mini every couple of months would be easily done.

WIPs go look back at the updates there is plenty there.

So concept art is free if it's for promo purposes?

Retail prices lower than kickstarter prices, well that's news to everyone on the planet.

You either need to take more time reading posts or stop intentionally trying to push your misguided agenda for 'cheap shinies'.
You didn't actually mention using the KS to fund direct to retail, I went back and checked twice. The cost of direct to retail added to a KS would be about £4k+ per model going on Mierce's comments around stretch goals, thats a fair wack to be adding to a KS the size of Mierce's for no benefit to KS backers.

Updates to what, the KS? Those are all art work in memory, you are going to have to provide examples as I can't find any. Art work is part of the startup cost for a KS, you should be including it in the initial funding total and it should be considerably cheaper than the sculpt, moulds and initial casts.

Retail sales will require a margin, typically 50% of RRP, and Mierce will have to cover all costs and make a profit out of the remaining 50%. Even if Mierce already have that 50% margin added in to their prices you will not convince me that they will sell enough models through retail for it be worth losing 50% of the RRP of the item by selling it through a store. Most successful wargaming retailers discount from RRP, Mierce in order to attract retailers would have to sell at RRP (otherwise the manufacturer can always out discount the retailer), hence lost direct sales and the indirect sales in return would be at about 50% of what they would have gotten.

I have no agenda other than wanting to point out how needless retail sales are for niche product.

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 Looky Likey wrote:
I have no agenda other than wanting to point out how needless retail sales are for niche product.


I look forward to the next Ferrari kickstarter

@zedmeister hopefully they will exclude these and the wave 1 stuff from future kickstarter add ons. I really think that given the opportunity to grow a retail presence this game will fill an existing niche within the fantasy skirmish war and part of the market and be very popular.

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Looky Likey

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
 Looky Likey wrote:
I have no agenda other than wanting to point out how needless retail sales are for niche product.


I look forward to the next Ferrari kickstarter

@zedmeister hopefully they will exclude these and the wave 1 stuff from future kickstarter add ons. I really think that given the opportunity to grow a retail presence this game will fill an existing niche within the fantasy skirmish war and part of the market and be very popular.
Ferrari do actually do their own version of KS for the limited edition, big ticket cars like the LaFerrari, those are all sold during the pre order process before build starts.
   
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 Looky Likey wrote:
UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
 Looky Likey wrote:
I have no agenda other than wanting to point out how needless retail sales are for niche product.


I look forward to the next Ferrari kickstarter

@zedmeister hopefully they will exclude these and the wave 1 stuff from future kickstarter add ons. I really think that given the opportunity to grow a retail presence this game will fill an existing niche within the fantasy skirmish war and part of the market and be very popular.
Ferrari do actually do their own version of KS for the limited edition, big ticket cars like the LaFerrari, those are all sold during the pre order process before build starts.


Actually the supercar variants are given away as loss leaders with millions invested before preorders even begin, you simply pay to be part of the club that gets one free.

Mainstream models are very much sold via a retail route. It's the retail sales that support the company.

And on that last off topic point lookylikey goes on ignore and I head off to the pool.

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Today's the start of our next release schedule; we'll have eight miniatures per month (at the least), one for each kindred, for the foreseeable future... and that's just the miniatures from Darklands: First Edition and Darklands: First Edition II.

We would have begun releases from D:FE earlier, but we needed to get Wave 2 sorted first, and I wanted to ensure our releases are painted.

As regards the wheres and whyfores of retail, there's a reason we do Kickstarters; whilst we have some good and reliable distributors in the USA and Germany, who put an order in each month, Darklands is not viable for many retailers yet, although the growth potential is huge, in our humble opinion.

It will take years before Darklands is taken up by a lot of the general wargaming public, though. The long view is best.

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Looky Likey

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
Actually the supercar variants are given away as loss leaders with millions invested before preorders even begin, you simply pay to be part of the club that gets one free.

Mainstream models are very much sold via a retail route. It's the retail sales that support the company.

And on that last off topic point lookylikey goes on ignore and I head off to the pool.
Ferrari funds development of its super cars through a private membership lease scheme of the FXX, with the FXX being a test mule for development of its next generation of cars. Ferrari have sold all 499 LaFerraris before launch at $1.6million each, thats nearly £800 million, I would put money on at least a quarter of that being profit.

Ferrari sells around 6000 "mainstream" cars a year, rising to 12000 with the change in management that has just happened at a starting price of £145,000, at least £1,740,000,000. Very different numbers to any wargame company.
   
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California the Southern

So help me figure things out here, fellow US Mierce fans. Who regularly stocks things?

I know FRP here in California are probably the best about getting new releases in stock.

Dzur's Treasures in Texas carry a fair amount. Not as much as variety as FRP though.

The Warstore hasn't had anything new in AGES, and have irritated me since they kept putting cheap Kadamastars on auction up until the time I wanted to get one.

Who am I missing out on ordering from?

I also asked in the comments of one of the campaigns, but never really got an answer.

-Do the bigger boxed figures usually come with bases? The last 3 I've gotten (all from different stores too) didn't have any bases. I didn't want to nag Rob about it if they weren't supposed to come with them in the first place.

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After how successful my Demos of Darklands were at gencon, I believe Warstore wants to stock more. I think with the KSes being fulfilled and the rulebook being written, Rob's focus has been on that rather than distribution "right now". As he said, the long view.

But yeah, the warstore is def hoping to stock the full line in the future.

 
   
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California the Southern

That's good to hear, as sales tax from FRP tends to add up when I order a lot of Darklands stuff unfortunately.

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/627383.page#7436324.html
Watch and listen to me ramble about these minis before ruining them with paint!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmCB2mWIxhYF8Q36d2Am_2A 
   
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Wow, a lot of armchair business critics here.
All I say is...look at what Mierce has produced since they started using Kickstarters.
No way no how could they have fleshed out the factions with dozens and dozens of high-quality miniatures without using KS.
   
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 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
That's good to hear, as sales tax from FRP tends to add up when I order a lot of Darklands stuff unfortunately.


Nobleknight has some stuff as well, though from what I can tell its the same price as on Mierce's website. A restock at the Warstore would be great!

I read somewhere that in the long term, plastic figures were in consideration, so it makes sense to do more retail at that point, since they can make more on volume vs earning more on a direct sale through KS or their own website.
   
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I can understand some of the concerns but until now Mierce has delivered and even do i don't play fantasy i always wanted a "slaine" celtic like army.

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Yeah. It boils down to the fact that UNCLEKNOWITALL doesn't know what he's talking about and is just ranting.

The Miece KSes have been the only ones I've backed that are consistently on time.

 
   
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Well, if I understand what he's saying, UBTOUCH is just trying to point out that creating one kickstarter after another without working to stabilize and support their brick and Mortar retail support, Mierce can only get so far, or will fail to deliver.

I can understand this thought, as it does seem as though they are focused on the kickstarters more than getting stuff out to retail. As Mierce and Zedmiester just pointed out, they have stuff for retail coming out in the near future, and Mierce has consistent releases from then on. I know they are a small studio, and this is a HUGE undertaking when coupled with fulfilling their kickstarter demands, AND trying to further the Darklands game world along.

It seems like the model of using kickstarter as a lifeline of your business is silly and/or risky for both the business and it's backers, but, as Mierce have shown, this is actually a way of running a small miniatures company. Smaller companies such as this would have never been able to create so much content in this amount of time in the past.

It's kind of crazy, I received my Wave 2 shipment from Mierce today. A shipping fee I paid for during the second kickstarter. And I'm receiving items from all 4 kickstarters! (some are items which had already been released, and I was just getting during that particular kickstarter)



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What are you getting from KS 2.5? AFAIK it's QSRs, Monstrous Mounts and Wave 2 (which is KS2 only)? I thought no KS2.5 materials were shipping until wave 4?
   
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OHMYGOD! Check this lot, and take a look at the sneakpeak!



New Sculpts, New Kindreds!

This, fellow Mierceites, is the last update before the launch of Darklands: New Kindreds, which starts on Monday... and even without another sneak peek, we have tons to show you!

This week we have:
news of our forthcoming Kickstarter project, Darklands: New Kindreds
sculpt work in progress updates from Hector Moran, Juan Navarro Pérez and Stéphane Simon;
images of miniatures painted by Martin Grandbarbe;
news of Wave 2 fulfilment;
a list of what miniatures will hopefully be sent in Wave 3;
updated lists of sculptors and sculpts;
downloadable versions of the current QuickStarter Rules, Muster Rules and Kindred Musters;
anything else you can expect from us over the next few months.

Let's go!

It's all change this week as there's work in progress of never before seen sculpts, including Urien's Horse from Juan Navarro Pérez and a new Holumann from Stéphane Simon. Not quite all change though, as we have images of the completed Con I Modius - which looks utterly amazing.

Urien

It's been a little while since we've seen anything by Juan Navarro Pérez but, as always, he produces absolutely stunning sculpts - and Urien's horse is no exception!







There's a way to go, but now he's started we reckon Urien on Horse will make it into Wave 3.

Con I Modius

The awesome Hector Moran has worked some digital magic once more and, we have to say, the Con I Modius, Legionary Contubernium looks absolutely stunning. We can't wait to get our hands on them!



Con I Modius should make it into Wave 3, although please bear in mind that we do have to get these digitally printed first.

Remember, too, that each one has a pilum (javelin) option!

Modius is the Decanus, the leader of ten (the Contubernium also contained two servants who were not expected to fight), and looks suitably commandery. Yes, that is a word...



The patina that Hector has put on these guys won't translate to the miniature, of course, but it certainly looks fantastic here...

A Legionary, Gellius is a cracking miniature



He does have a scutum and pilum, of course.

Another male Legionary, Tiberius is looking fantastic...

Tiberius is holding his pilum in his scutum hand...



The first female Legionary, Livia is a lovely sculpt!



Like Tiberius, Livia holds her pilum in her scutum hand.

Severa is the last of the female Legionaries and looks superb.



We don't yet have images of Severa's pilum but we should get that fairly soon...

Hrafnen Crew

Stéphane Simon is cracking on with the Hrafnen Crew, with the banner bearer, Snorri son of Snorri, getting there...

It's early days yet for Snorri but he's certainly taking shape...



Even though there's a couple still to sculpt, we reckon the Hrafnen Crew will make it into Wave 3.

Painted Miniatures

It's been a while since we've seen any painted miniatures, but these two - painted by Martin Grandbarbe - have been worth the wait!

Eadric

Our lovely warlord for the Angelcynn, Eadric, is looking superb!









Sadly, Martin managed to break Eadric's sword, so that's why that looks a bit odd; but he's got a new sword and should sort that out shortly...

Annik

Annik, our lovely lass from Cornwall, has a paintjob...









Annik looks fantastic... and rather bloody!

New Kindreds

How will the project work?

The main rewards will be based around Starter Hosts, rather like Darklands: a World of War. There will be at least two Starter Hosts for each of the new kindreds - one that contains infantry, and one containing monstrous infantry - as well as options to include generals, commanders, sorcerers, monstrous beasts and much else besides. They'll also include dice and tokens as required, to get you started immediately.

What will the rewards be?

The rewards will be based around those Starter Hosts, and you'll be able to purchase them separately or combined - including an option for "all the starter hosts" for those with larger wallets...!

There will also be a reward for those who just want a couple of miniatures from the project, and there will also be a reward for an A5 version of the full rulebook that only contains rules.

The Infantry Starter Hosts will be priced at £80, which will save you over 40% from the predicted RRP of everything that's inside them. You'll get a general, infantry unit and small monstrous beast, as well as dice and tokens.

All of the infantry starter hosts will be unveiled right at the beginning of the project, although stretch goals will have to be made to get everything. If (when?) the project reaches £60,000, all of the infantry starter hosts will be produced.

The Monstrous Infantry Starter Hosts will be priced at £100, again saving you over 40% from the predicted RRP of everything that's inside them. You'll get a monstrous commander, a monstrous infantry unit and a large monstrous beast, as well as dice and tokens.

None of the monstrous infantry starter sets will be unveiled at the beginning of the project - you'll have to wait until we hit £60,000 for those!

What about the other Kindreds?

We haven't forgotten the existing kindreds - oh no! There'll be Infantry and Monstrous Infantry Starter Hosts for each of the other kindreds, priced exactly the same as the above.

In the existing kindreds' Infantry Starter Hosts, you'll get an alternate general, an infantry unit with alternate warriors (based upon the banner bearer and herald) and a small monstrous beast that may be alternate, and it may not - along with dice and tokens. Again, these will be shown immediately the project begins and will be produced when the project gets to £60,000.

Similarly, the existing kindreds' Monstrous Infantry Starter Hosts will include an alternate monstrous commander, a monstrous infantry unit with alternate warriors (based upon the banner bearer and herald) and a large monstrous beast that may be alternate, and it may not - along with dice and tokens. Again, these won't be shown until we hit £60,000.

All of the alternates will be able to be purchased separately, to ensure those of you with plenty of our existing kindreds' miniatures don't have to shell out too much for them.

Aren't there any new miniatures for the existing Kindreds?

Oh yes - there definitely will be, as long as we get past the infantry and monstrous infantry starter hosts; and we may well chuck in a couple here and there before that occurs...!

Trust us - the alternates will make you all very happy indeed, and there will certainly be a couple of freebies... so whilst the project is designed to fund the creation of new kindreds, if you like the others there'll be plenty for you to fund!

What about a Sneak Peek?

Absolutely; here's something to make you fall off your chair... because we have a Jute-shaped surprise for you on Monday! Here's Sigheard, champion of the man-sized infantry Wihtgar Unit... drawn by Danny Cruz, coloured by Joe Slucher!



That's it for this week people... until next week, keep it Darklands!



Undead Jutes! Oh, and these are not the typical one dimensional undead you are used to - The Jutes are not Necromancers, they are more allies of the Wights

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JUTES?!?

Are the Jutes now also going to be one of the NEW KINDREDS too?!?

I weep for my bank balance!
   
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KS2.5 update:



New Sculpts to Show, and Darklands: New Kindreds is nearly here...

Frige's day is here once more - and this one will be a cracker, because not only do we have new and old work in progress images, it's also only a few days until Darklands: New Kindreds launches!

This week we have:
news of our forthcoming Kickstarter project, Darklands: New Kindreds
sculpt work in progress updates from Olivier Bouchet, Roberto Chaudon, Yannick Fusier, Olivier Nkweti and Juan Navarro Pérez;
a list of sculptors and sculpts for this project;
downloadable versions of the current QuickStarter Rules, Muster Rules and Kindred Musters;
anything else you can expect from us over the next few months.

Let's begin!

Contrary to last week, there's a fair bit to show you today, including another Oghur from Olivier Bouchet, two Oghurithne from Yannick Fusier, the start of Forwyn Carys from Juan Navarro Pérez and another Fiend from Roberto Chaudon...

Oghu Guardians

From the artwork by Thomas Mahon, Olivier Bouchet is working very hard indeed on the Oghu Guardians, and now Drudd joins the rest of his unit!

The last remaining sculpt of the Oghu Guardians, Drudd, is here...









We do believe that the Oghu Guardians will make it into Wave 4, as Drudd is the last sculpt!

Oghurithne

It's been a little while since we've heard anything from Yannick Fusier, but not only has he completed Rubeg, he's also started work on Lobeg, the herald...









The lovely Oghurithne warrior, Rubeg, is now complete (well, apart from cleaning up and cutting) and he really does look the business.

These guys look fantastic!

Lobeg is the herald of the Oghurithne unit, and whilst it's early days for him yet, you can see the shape and size of him.



We don't think the Oghurithne will be complete for Wave 4, but we shall see. They'll probably be a Wave 5 shipment.

Forwyn Carys

The magnificent Juan Navarro Pérez has decided that it would be easier to sculpt Forwyn Carys first and then convert her back into Carys (for Darklands: First Edition), and who are we to argue?





She's certainly looking great, anyway! Forwyn Carys should now make it into Wave 4.

The Eye Ascendant

With just one warrior to go after this one, the champion, it seems The Eye Ascendant - digitally sculpted by Olivier Nkweti - is not far away at all...

Coraat is a Warrior of Baalor and another great example of Olivier's skill at nasty faces...







Whilst we don't think it will be too long until they're all done, we do still have to print these guys - although we still think they'll make it into Wave 4.

Craven Fiends of Dis

Roberto Chaudon's well into the Craven Fiends of Dis and here's another masterwork from the art by Stef Kopinski...

A lowly warrior, Bacchus is a cracking piece of work complete with broken horns and scars. Who says demons can't take pain?









We certainly hope that the Fiends will be complete in time for Wave 4, and with just two to go, we think Roberto can do it!

   
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More on the Jutes in Darklands:


Creator Mierce Miniatures about 2 hours ago

@Graham - the Jutes are one of the three germanic tribes that were invited by the Romans to defend Britain; they settled in Kent, other parts of the south coast and the Isle of Wight (which is where the inspiration comes from - interestingly, there's over 300 barrows on that island); the Jutes brought certain practices over with them and now the humans (Jutes) can resurrect their dead (the Wihta). Additionally, the Jutes are also shape-shifters in human form...


Creator Mierce Miniatures about 2 hours ago

A bit of Jute background: "Amongst those invited to defend Britannia in ages past by the Romanii were the Jutes, at first glance little different from the Angelcynn or Seaxans or Friesians that joined them in the time of Henghest and Horsa. Now, in this age of darkness, the corruption of the Jutes is of black renown, for their barrows unleash the dead that knew battle long ago and their hosts embrace shape-shifters of altogether different form, forms of the mounds and the tumuli, forms of the disturbed earth and the cracked rocks. Now, the Jutes have power."
   
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While I love the general idea for that faction, I can't help but feel they're overextending - again. Darklands was just about to - more or less, that is - come to a point where most kindreds were decently fleshed out, and would no longer feel half-finished or incomplete (I'd have liked a savrax unit before a krokod unit too, for example - it'd give more of a sense of completeness IMO) - and on comes another kindred. Not a good idea, IMO.

...That said, if I can find the funds those Jutes might just get expensive for me
   
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I am loving those Legionaires. Can't wait till they hit retail and I can blow my stipend on all of them...


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this company has my attention for sure. the sculpts are my favourite I've ever seen.

I'm not super familiar with Kickstarter... is it still possible to buy into the old ones or are those prices/bundles gone?

I guess I could get on board with the new one?

My only problem with this game is that as it emerges I find it tough to navigate the website and find information. I think they should make it easier to get started.. maybe some starter packs? I want to know the lore, figure out the rules and figure out how to get started with a buddy.

A gritty skirmish fantasy game is what I've been craving. These are amazing and if the rules work, this could end up being my favourite game.
   
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 Bolognesus wrote:
What are you getting from KS 2.5? AFAIK it's QSRs, Monstrous Mounts and Wave 2 (which is KS2 only)? I thought no KS2.5 materials were shipping until wave 4?


It was the two hydra men released in KS2. I ended up buying them during KS2.5, and they weren't finished till now. Nothing 'from' the actual KS 2.5, or Monsterous Mounts.


Also, I'm sure Mierce will do a great job on the Jutes, just hope they stay more 'skeletony' and no part 'Zombie-y'. God knows we have more zombie crap everywhere then we can handle.

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