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Made in us
Defending Guardian Defender





Oregon City, Oregon

So, I came up with some ideas, and I am treating this as if I own nothing. The 3 that I came up with are:

Bike assault:

Captain
bike
chainsword to power weapon

6 bike squads with 10 guys (8 bikes and attack bike)
1 sergeant bolt pistol to power sword
above sergeant has melta bombs
5 sergeants powerfist
1 marine with flamer
1 marine with melta
3 attack bikes with multi-melta

1 predator
heavy bolters


Dreadnought assault:

master of the forge

4 ironclad dreads
storm bolter to heavy flamer
seismic hammer chainfist
assault launchers
2 drop pods

2 dreads
multi-melta to TL autocannon
dccw to missile launcher

1 scout squad with 10 men
camo cloaks
sniper rifles
1 missile launcher
Telion

3 tac squads (10 men)
bolter to flamer
bolter to missile launcher
sergeant bolter to combi-melta
rhino
1 hunter-killer missile

1 drop pod*
missile launcher

*The extra drop pod is to get the dreadnoughts down on turn one with the drop pod assault rule


Sternguard assault:

Pedro Kantor

2 sternguard squads (10 man)
3 combi-flamer
3 combi-melta
3 combi-plasma
bolter to meltagun
Rhino
extra armour

1 sternguard squad (9 man)*
3 combi-flamer
2 combi-melta
3 combi-plasma
bolter to meltagun
rhino
extra armour
*Pedro rides with them

1 scout squad (10 man)
camo cloaks
snipers
Telion

1 tac squad (10 men)
bolter to meltagun
bolter to missile launcher
sergeant bolter to combi-melta
rhino
1 hunter-killer missile

2 landspeeder squads (1 in the squad)
missiles on them

1 landspeeder squad (2 in squad)
multi-meltas on them

thanks in advance for the advice!
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




First list: Not a great way to do bikes. I understand the pred. as you want range, but the pred becomes a sitting target which the opposite of what you are after.

Try
Bike captain with articicificier armour, maybe a relic blade, maybe meltabombs.
Command squad on bikes. This is will be your deathstar, which keeps your other squads out of cc. Give them stormshields and cc weapons or whatever you feel like should work.
Bike squads should go for quality over quantity. So 4 bikes with plasmas and a MM attack bike give off a nice healthy glow of fire power, the plasma has the good range to stick the MM and to keep them out of cc. Sure give them a powerfist. You'll a few of these.
Then long range support has to be the typhoon, it can keep up with your list and can hide just as easily. Fits in with the Hit and run style of your list.
You could take attack bikes, then use turbo boosts to also give some long range help.
Also scout bikes seem great to me, not used them myself.

Second list: Iron clads need cc to be useful, guessing your opponent will try not to let that happen, furthermore they need to get into melta range to be deadly which is not fun for armour. Does it sound weird to suggest Hunter seeker missiles or meltas for them, this way they land and take something out.
2 TLautocannon will be better than the ML, in fact I would go for maybe 4 of these guys with some MM or assault cannons on the other two to mix it up.
Telion is great though not brilliant for claiming objectives, camo cloaks are not needed as Telion has stealth.
Rhinos are too squishy and fast for the list. Razorbacks go at the right speed and have good supporting firepower. Otherwise some more scouts to claim objectives could be good.
Master of the forge should have his gun and be on bike to be most killy and to fit in with your list. Attack bike, techmarine and gun parts can make a good model for this.

In general then make it more shooty

Third List:10 sternguard in a rhino is a waste. they are really expensive to have them all hiding away with only two able to fire. I find units of 6 seem to be a good number, also combiflamers and plasmas are not so useful as you have special ammo, meltas are going to be good however.
Telion does not need camo cloaks again. I would prefer cheap scouts and more sternguard to the tactical squad, it is the joy of pedro after all.

Try:
6 sternguard, 4 combimeltas 2 heavy flamers rhino
6 sternguard, 2 meltaguns rhino
6 sternguard, 2 meltaguns rhino
Telion's squad
5 scouts with rifles and camo cloaks.
Then maybe the speeders, though I would prefer something to deflect antitank guns away from your rhinos, so ,maybe preds would be better.

Much love, Fletch

   
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine





Goldsboro, NC

I like the Dreadnaught Assault. Dreadnaughts are awesome.




"Say when!" 
   
Made in us
Defending Guardian Defender





Oregon City, Oregon

Thank you so much for all of the help! I will definitely take the advice into consideration when I start my army, which will start after Christmas. Thanks again!
   
Made in gb
Tower of Power






Cannock

I like Dreadnoughts and Bikes. I wrote these two lists sometime ago, they might be a help to you.

http://www.imperiusdominatus.com/2010/02/army-lists-dreadnoughts-bikes-with-hint.html

http://www.imperiusdominatus.com/2010/03/army-lists-kharn-biker-list-with.html

warhammer 40,000 tactica and hobby blog - www.imperiusdominatus.com

Want list feedback and advice? e-mail imperiusdominatus@live.co.uk

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