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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/15 03:38:52
Subject: 1500 point Necrons please help!
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Freaky Flayed One
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Hey guys i'm pretty new at 40k and the army I chose to use are the new necrons. I have zero experience making lists and was hoping I could get some opinions from you vets thanks heres my list:
HQ:
Necron Overlord................................................................90
- warscythe.........................................................................10
-resurrection orb...............................................................30
Necron lord ........................................................................35
-resurrection orb................................................................30
Necron lord.........................................................................35
-resurrection orb................................................................30
Troop:
Warriors x12.......................................................................156
Warriors x12.......................................................................156
Immortals x5.......................................................................85
Transport:
Catacomb Command Barge...........................................80
-Gauss cannon
Elites:
Deathmarks x5...................................................................95
Lychguards x5....................................................................200
-hyperphase swords and dispersion shields
Fast attack:
Canoptek Scarabs x6........................................................90
Heavy support:
Doomsday Ark....................................................................175
Monolith................................................................................200
Total:.....................................................................................1497
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/15 05:50:14
Subject: Re:1500 point Necrons please help!
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Irked Necron Immortal
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Hey, mjo! I'm pretty new to these boards myself, but I'll try to give you some advice.
First, your Lychguards are priced incorrectly. The hypherphase swords and dispersion shields add 5 points to the cost of each model in the unit. You have 5 Lychguard, so their total cost should be 225 points.
The second thing is the Lychguards themselves. I don't know if I would take Lychguard in a list that had less than 2000 points, they're just too expensive for what they do. That's 225 points that could be going to more Warriors, a C'Tan, a Triarch Stalker....You get the idea.
Third, I would find a way to beef up your squad of Immortals. 5 Immortals are going to drop pretty quickly.
Fourth....I don't know. I'm just not seeing a whole lot of synergy here. You've got Lychguard, Scarabs, and the Monolith which all want to get close and personal, but then you've got decently sized Warrior blocks which I'm assuming you want to shoot with. You've also got a Doomsday Ark and Deathmarks. I would figure out a theme for your list - maybe all-shooty, all vehicle, all melee, whatever - then run with that.
Hope that helps you out!
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DT:80+S++G++M--B--IPw40k11+D+A+++/cWD-R+++T(D)DM+
8000, mostly painted
14000, all over the place |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/15 07:20:48
Subject: Re:1500 point Necrons please help!
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Freaky Flayed One
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re-wrote my list again thanks for all the input, but i didn't see the point in giving the lord close combat upgrades if he was going to be a part of units that arent going to be in close combat. So heres the new one:
HQ:
Necron Overlord..................................................................90
- warscythe...........................................................................10
-command barge
Necron lord ..........................................................................35
-resurrection orb..................................................................30
Necron lord...........................................................................35
.-resurrection orb.................................................................30
Cryptek .................................................................................25
-eldritch lance......................................................................10
-solar pulse..........................................................................20
Troop:
Warriors x15.......................................................................195
-necron lord
Warriors x8..........................................................................104
-cryptek
-ghost ark
Immortals x10....................................................................170
-necron lord
Transport:
Catacomb Command Barge...........................................80
-Gauss cannon
Ghost Ark............................................................................115
Ghost Ark............................................................................115
Elites:
Deathmarks x5...................................................................95
Triarch stalker....................................................................150
-twin linked heavy gauss cannon...................................15
Heavy support:
Doomsday Ark....................................................................175
Total:.....................................................................................1499
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/12/15 19:48:13
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/15 08:04:15
Subject: 1500 point Necrons please help!
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Camouflaged Zero
Where the sun crosses the field of blood.
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Um, why are you giving the units of warriors Rez.Lords? I think you would benefit more by putting him with the Immortals, because you'll save more points... And since the Immortals are better than the Warriors in terms of punching people (at range), they should be the ones to gain the extra survivability. They are simply more likely to kill something than the warriors.
Oh, and Immortals can't take a Ghost Ark. For them, it's either a Nighty Scythy or footslogging.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/15 17:47:53
Subject: 1500 point Necrons please help!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The Cornerfag~ wrote:Um, why are you giving the units of warriors Rez.Lords? I think you would benefit more by putting him with the Immortals, because you'll save more points... And since the Immortals are better than the Warriors in terms of punching people (at range), they should be the ones to gain the extra survivability. They are simply more likely to kill something than the warriors.
Oh, and Immortals can't take a Ghost Ark. For them, it's either a Nighty Scythy or footslogging.
I think he means the GA's are with the warriors, he just had the dedi trans all together.
I think you got the right idea but I would beef one warrior squad to 20, drop the other to 5 and drop the lord. Drop the orb off the Overlord as he's barged and want get much use out of it.
Add a WS/ MSS to the lord with the RO in the warrior brick.
Another Idea i had was replacing the necron lord on the ghost ark with a cryptek with the following:
Cryptek .................................................................................25
-eldritch lance......................................................................10
-gaze of flame......................................................................10
-solar pulse..........................................................................20
Do this, but probably don't need the gaze of flame.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Errata: I see now he had the GA attached to the Immortals. Yeah you can't do this. However I would keep both GA's just leave one empty and run it in front of your brick of 20 warriors.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/15 19:52:11
Subject: Re:1500 point Necrons please help!
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Freaky Flayed One
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i just edited the second one to update it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/15 22:10:24
Subject: 1500 point Necrons please help!
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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New Here too. Your second list looks a lot more balanced. Here's what I have to add:
It's a personal thing, but I don't like the Doomsday Ark much. For the same number of points you can get 2 Annihilation Barges, be able to target more units and move more fluidly.
I wouldn't put the warriors BEHIND the Ghost Ark... What is the Ghost Ark there for, but to make more warriors and provide an elevated shooting platform for a Shooty Crytek to ping things from?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/15 22:44:00
Subject: 1500 point Necrons please help!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Anpu-adom wrote:New Here too. Your second list looks a lot more balanced. Here's what I have to add:
It's a personal thing, but I don't like the Doomsday Ark much. For the same number of points you can get 2 Annihilation Barges, be able to target more units and move more fluidly.
I wouldn't put the warriors BEHIND the Ghost Ark... What is the Ghost Ark there for, but to make more warriors and provide an elevated shooting platform for a Shooty Crytek to ping things from?
The idea is to provide cover for the Warriors. And repair them. And if it gets borked its then difficult terrain protecting the warriors from getting assaulted and still providing them cover. The warriors themselves have AP 5 weapons so they aren't punching through armour anyway, it's a win win situation. Also, if by some miracle it doesn't die, it's there for late game objective rushing once the warriors drop to 10 or less.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/16 01:47:14
Subject: Re:1500 point Necrons please help!
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Freaky Flayed One
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i'm starting to like that idea of replacing the doomsday ark with annihilation barges if i did, my list would be changed like so:
Troop:
Warriors x14...........................................182
-necron lord
Heavy Support:
Annihilation Barge.................................90
-gauss cannon
Annihilation Barge.................................90
-gauss cannon
Total.........................................................1491
What do you guys think about these changes if I applied them?
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This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2011/12/16 18:51:50
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/16 16:15:28
Subject: 1500 point Necrons please help!
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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I like it a lot.
I watched the latest Beat Matt Batrep at Miniwargamming.com... I have to say that I understand using the Ghost ark as a screen now.
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