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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/15 17:37:49
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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Swift Swooping Hawk
England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole
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I will be entering a tournemant and I am wondering what powers would be best to equip my Librarian with. I have one in terminator armour that will be traveling in a Land Raider Crusader accompanied by 5 terminators, a Sanguinary Priest in terminator armour and a Chaplain. So what powers would be best at this setup. Also the local meta is almost completly tanks their is one nid player who playes MC's but the rest is mainly taks. With alot of GK players and a few BA ones. My second list has a standard Librarian who will probably go with an Assault Squad with a meltagun and power sword in a Razorback.
So basiaclly i want to know the powers I should give them. For the Terminator Librarian I was thinking Shield of Sanguinius and either smite as i can take down terminators and then assault. Or Blood Lance as there are alot of tanks where I play. But i would normally want to assault things and would this stop me from doing this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/15 17:42:31
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Depends on the rest of the list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/15 17:43:31
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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Swift Swooping Hawk
England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole
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I am running full mech lists. At 2250 and 1750.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/15 18:14:29
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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I always see Shield of Sanguinius and Unleash Rage being taken. For Mech though, Unleash Rage doesn't make sense IMO since it's MSU spam. Blood Lance is way too subject to RNG, since you have a minimum range of 4" to a max range of 24"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/15 18:39:54
Subject: Re:Blood Angels Librarian
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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It seems ridiculous to take Unleash Rage when you already have a Chaplain who does that. I know for a fact you should take Shield, but in my opinion the Chaplain seems redundant since the Librarian does the same thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/15 18:41:31
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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Swift Swooping Hawk
England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole
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How does the librarian do the same thing? that would only be if I gave him unleash rage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/15 19:09:30
Subject: Re:Blood Angels Librarian
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Because I find the Librarian's best two powers are Shield of Sanguinius and Unleash Rage. The Chaplain does the same thing for the Terminators but for an extra 100 points. Even if you weren't running Terminators I would still suggest the same powers since the other ones are ok. Blood Lance is the best besides the 2 I've mentioned but it won't always hit what you want and you give cover saves after the first hit. =(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/15 19:28:16
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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Fear of the dark is always a good power if you don't plan on charging with your lib. The one with the 5 man squad would definitely benefit from that and shield.
The one in the LR should prolly take shield and maybe sword? But if you're with termis then you prolly have THs so you could replace it with the one that gives you extra attacks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/16 02:15:54
Subject: Re:Blood Angels Librarian
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Shield is a given.
So the other powers are three types:
Shooting attacks, you can not shoot from the landraider otherwise you should be in cc.
Cc skills, at which point you'll very may well use the force weapon instead.
Or Wings.
I am going for wings as it gives you a weird tactical move. Leaving and joining units is easy enough. But being able to fly over to give either shield or contest an objective may come important.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/16 18:33:09
Subject: Re:Blood Angels Librarian
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Might of Heroes?
D3 Extra Attacks will mean even with bad luck you should destroy anything, or could make for some awesome multi assaults
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/16 19:04:17
Subject: Re:Blood Angels Librarian
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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MFletch wrote:Shield is a given.
Why is shield a given?
They already have 5++ ...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/16 19:37:15
Subject: Re:Blood Angels Librarian
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Tunneling Trygon
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RatWolf wrote:MFletch wrote:Shield is a given.
Why is shield a given?
They already have 5++ ...
The land raider gets a cover save against first turn strikes or for turns without smoke protection. Same goes for any other vehicles in the list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/16 19:57:23
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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For subsequent turns ... why?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/17 01:41:00
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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[DCM]
Tilter at Windmills
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Shield gives the LR holding the libby, and any vehicle within 6" of the LR, and any squad with a single model within 6" of the LR, 5+ cover. That's gold.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/17 12:31:15
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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Swift Swooping Hawk
England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole
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Honestly I only care about the landraider for the first turn. After that the terminators will be in combat and it will be popping somke turn one so it will get a 4+ save. But if a Librarian in Power Armour were to go with a 9-man assault squad in a rhino would i be better going for Shield and Smite or Shield and Might. I am inclined to go with might of heroes as I would only use smite if I were within 12" and I would be using shield I I were not in combat unless I popped smoke then I could use Smite.
I could use unleash rage with shield also so i am getting re-rolls in combat. So any ideas for a standard Librarian with the a
Assault Squad in a Rhino.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/17 19:47:23
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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redkeyboard wrote:Honestly I only care about the landraider for the first turn. After that the terminators will be in combat and it will be popping somke turn one so it will get a 4+ save. But if a Librarian in Power Armour were to go with a 9-man assault squad in a rhino would i be better going for Shield and Smite or Shield and Might. I am inclined to go with might of heroes as I would only use smite if I were within 12" and I would be using shield I I were not in combat unless I popped smoke then I could use Smite.
I could use unleash rage with shield also so i am getting re-rolls in combat. So any ideas for a standard Librarian with the a
Assault Squad in a Rhino.
Whoa, whoa, whoa your throwing away 250pts for a squad to get to combat quicker? if you going to throw away points like that, I would honestly say go for a redeemer then because there will be lots of purifiers as well at the tourney as well, and an AP3 flamer is good against marines, and you will still get to assault as well.
As for the librarian choices, look at the disadvantages if you cant decide on what to take. If one has more disadvantages than the other then take the other one.
just my two cents...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/18 16:25:21
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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[DCM]
Tilter at Windmills
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redkeyboard wrote:Honestly I only care about the landraider for the first turn. After that the terminators will be in combat and it will be popping somke turn one so it will get a 4+ save.
A) That's a lot of points to throw away after one turn.
B) Shield still protects your LR if you don't go first. Smoke doesn't help you if your opponent shoots it before you move.
redkeyboard wrote: But if a Librarian in Power Armour were to go with a 9-man assault squad in a rhino would i be better going for Shield and Smite or Shield and Might. I am inclined to go with might of heroes as I would only use smite if I were within 12" and I would be using shield I I were not in combat unless I popped smoke then I could use Smite.
I could use unleash rage with shield also so i am getting re-rolls in combat. So any ideas for a standard Librarian with the a
Assault Squad in a Rhino.
Shield and Unleash Rage. Unleash Rage helps the whole unit. Giving both the librarian and the Sgt with fist re-rolls to hit is better than just giving one of them +d3 attacks. Add on top of that that UR helps all the other guys in the unit at the same time, and it's a no-brainer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/20 02:55:52
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Chaplain's rerolls only works on the turn you charge. Definitely not the same as the uber Unleash Rage.
But seeing as you are going up against alot of GKs, it might be a bad idea to put the libby in hand to hand with them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/20 05:33:53
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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[DCM]
Tilter at Windmills
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Chaplain also gives straight re-rolls rather than Preferred Enemy, which makes it great against vehicles.
Libby's hood is huge against GK, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/20 13:37:43
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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The key to a librarian is to get the most out of their powers. If you go with two offensive powers, you can only use one each turn. If you use an offensive and shield, you can now use 2 powers each game turn.
I'd go shield and might, or lance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/22 02:17:17
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
DC Metro
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Much as Shield seems like a no-brainer, I've lately been really enamored with the Rage/Fear combination. Fear the Darkness is a great power for the round that your Librarian lands on the table, when you know you're not going to be assaulting anything, while Rage helps offset the pain of getting assaulted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/22 04:30:25
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Blood lance lets you take out 2/3 vehicles pretty easily, handy against mech IG.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/22 04:32:50
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
DC Metro
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Blood Lance is great, except for the random range. For every 22" lance that hits 4 hulls, you're going to get a 7" shot that hits one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/23 16:10:17
Subject: Blood Angels Librarian
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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I would go with unleash rage and shield, keep both the libby and priest in power armor, dump the chaplain, and up the terminator content to 7 assault terminators with say 4TH/SS and 3 lightning claws.
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