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So hello there recently I started wanting to play 40k and my local store or as local as it gets had a huge box of CSM and I liked the army so I bought the box. The problem now is I have about 1500 points that I can make and I'm not sure where to start. When I say the big box I mean the one with the land raider, defieler, Etc.

For clarification not looking for super be tournament ready list ill be playing with friends. I am gonna do a black crusade army. Which means all the different types of CSM legions so a wide color variety army with black legion shoulder pads to mark that they are part of the crusade

What's all in the box?

You're best to start with a couple of troops and an HQ to make a playable list, I'll advise more when you give me a bit more to work with!

Best of luck!

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1430006&_requestid=405385

That is the link to the box and a link to its contents. Sorry I am on my cell so its the best I can do atm

Right, I'd build the CSMs and rhinos and the termi lord first.Then build 4 of the termi's and the Land Raider. (the 5th termi can't go in the rhino if you want to run the lord with the termis). Then its really up to you for the Vindicator and Defiler!

EDIT: Its all up to you, but that's what I'd do!

You could use the lord as a sorcerer and get a few obliterators and you have a decent list. Lash and boom!

Right. I'm trying to decide if I should just keep the standard weeps for the marines. And save the melta and flamers for the termies?

Save meltas for a squad of chosen since they can field quite a few and are great for moving in on the other side.

Ill remember that. Thanks for the help so far

I would pool the special weapons bits you have, so one squad could have two plasma guns and one squad could have two melta guns. Give them each a powerfist champion as well. Put them in the two rhinos. Build the Terminator lord and 4 Terminators, give them whatever gear you like. Lightning claws or a daemon weapon and combi melta are good gear for the lord. Put them in the Land Raider. Build the defiler with a close combat weapon and a twin linked reaper autocannon, and build the Vindicator as is.

It's all fairly cut and dry, really. Next step: Get the codex!

The stuff in this box looks like you could get really close to a list I'm thinking about building myself just for fun. Just to give you an idea of what I'd run, if I had that box (plus a bit extra):

Terminator Lord w/ MoK, Termie Armor, Daemon Weapon

4 Terminators 1 MoK, 2 LC, 1 Chain Fist
LR w/ Daemonic Possession

CSM Squad w/ IoCG, Champ w/ Fist, Melta x2
CSM Squad w/ IoCG, Champ w/ Fist, Metla x2

Defiler w/ TLAC, CCW
Vindicator w/ Daemonic Possession

Total - 1385

At this point you have 115 points left to spend. Personally I'd add in a third heavy support. I'd ebay a pred AC turret and two pred Las side sponsons and build the vindicator as a Pred instead, freeing up 15 points, which I'd use to buy a second pred after that, though if you are partial to the vindicator, I'd maybe drop the 2 Lightning Claws from the Termies and the fists on one of the the CSM Squads. That's free up 30 more points for a second vindi.

You can also get yourself some green stuff and build those marines as Plague Marines if you want to add some diversity to the list (as far as gods represented go). 7 Plague Marines in a Rhino with a chap w/ Fist and dual Melta is only 1 point more than the regular marines with the same wargear.

This is all really awesome advice and ill be borrowing a codex when I go to my friends house today. He has a nice sized building that came with his land that was a dinner so its got plenty of tables that we use for games and to do modeling since he doesn't mind me borrowing his supply

To go along with the lash Idea, as is, you could go with a Termie Sorc w/ MoS and Lash as an HQ, and then get IoS on the Terminators instead of IoK, which would save you the 30 points you need for another vindi (you should run those at least in pairs). The squad wouldn't be as killy, as you'd lose the extra attacks, but you would definitely get in assault range faster, and I5 Termies with LC would decimate and MEQs they fought. 12 move, depart 2 more inches, 6 inch charge is already a 20 inch threat range, plus 2d6 lash range makes for first turn assaults really easily. You can also use it then to bunch things up like Draigo mentioned so your ordinance can smash it easier.

For now I'm just using in box as ill be making two big student loan payments soon so ill finally have that out of the way. With the two huge payments ill be hard pressed for extra cash but after that ill have some extra. So for atleast the next two months it will be out of the box stuff only

mef989 wrote:The stuff in this box looks like you could get really close to a list I'm thinking about building myself just for fun. Just to give you an idea of what I'd run, if I had that box (plus a bit extra):

Terminator Lord w/ MoK, Termie Armor, Daemon Weapon

4 Terminators 1 MoK, 2 LC, 1 Chain Fist
LR w/ Daemonic Possession

CSM Squad w/ IoCG, Champ w/ Fist, Melta x2
CSM Squad w/ IoCG, Champ w/ Fist, Metla x2

Defiler w/ TLAC, CCW
Vindicator w/ Daemonic Possession

Total - 1385

At this point you have 115 points left to spend. Personally I'd add in a third heavy support. I'd ebay a pred AC turret and two pred Las side sponsons and build the vindicator as a Pred instead, freeing up 15 points, which I'd use to buy a second pred after that, though if you are partial to the vindicator, I'd maybe drop the 2 Lightning Claws from the Termies and the fists on one of the the CSM Squads. That's free up 30 more points for a second vindi.

You can also get yourself some green stuff and build those marines as Plague Marines if you want to add some diversity to the list (as far as gods represented go). 7 Plague Marines in a Rhino with a chap w/ Fist and dual Melta is only 1 point more than the regular marines with the same wargear.

This seems like a fairly fun list...

A really good thing is to use small magnets for the terminators arms, its easy to do and this way you can change all the wargear.

this is a fairly good guide http://www.miniwargaming.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=30550

It goes in depth with all the units and shows you a trick or two about how to play csm well.

I now have a box of thousand sons given to me. Ill probably just make those pretty standard

Considering the unit itself doesn't have any options aside from a rhino, you don't have much choice.

for csm daemon princes are pretty sweet, i also really like defiliers and obliterators.

Remulus wrote: for csm daemon princes are pretty sweet, i also really like defiliers and obliterators.

He likes Defilers? The young one is learning well!