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Unit Wargear Points
Company command squad Lascannon,2xplasma guns,chimera 155

Battle pskyers 4+pskyers, chimera 155
Marbo No upgrades 65
Platoon command squad 4xflamers, melta bombs 55
Infantry squad commisar, 2power weapons, meltagun 115
Infantry squad Power weapon, meltagun 70
Infantry squad Power weapon, meltagun 70
Heavy weapons team 3xAutocannons 75
Veterans 3xmeltaguns, demoltions 130
Veterans 3xmeltaguns, demoltions 130

Vendatta No upgrades 130
Vendatta No upgrades 130
Valkyrie Multiply missile pods 130

Medusa squadron 2xMedusa 270
Manticore No upgrades 160
Manticore No upgrades 160

Total 2000

Nothing, feedback would be good, as i need to know if i should get a second manticore or add something different ?


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Way I read your list, your PCS is in your Valk, your Vets are in the Vendettas. The blob is defensive to protect your artillery. and your CCS and PBS help your blob in a attempt to give a cover save to some of your artillery. All in all, I don't see wasted points or poor choices. Good job!

I do have some suggestions though. I suggest throwing melta bombs on the PIS and for 75pts you could have a SWS with 2 Melta guns and a Demo Charge and fill the same roll as those Vets.

Obviously you need a second troop choice, so I would shake stuff up alittle to get it with a second platoon. This would probably cost you a Chimera and I am unsure if you want to lose one. The plan would be to make a second PCS and put both PCSs in the Vendettas (since you really do not want to waste them on a suicide rush since I feel they are better gunships anyways) and put the SWS in the Valk.

My thinking...

CCS - 185pts
LC, 2x Plasma guns, OotF, Chimera

PBS - 155pts
+4 Psykers, Chimera

Marbro - 65pts

PCS - 55pts (in Vendetta)
4x Flamers, Melta bomb

PIS - 130pts (blob 1)
Commissar, 2x PWs, Melta gun, Melta bomb, AC

PIS - 85pts (blob 1)
PW, Melta gun, Melta bomb, AC

PCS - 55pts (in Vendetta)
4x Flamers, Melta bomb

PIS - 130pts (blob 2)
Commissar, 2x PWs, Melta gun, Melta bomb, AC

PIS - 85pts (blob 2)
PW, Melta gun, Melta bomb, AC

SWS - 75pts (in Valk)
2x Melta gun, Demolitions charge

Vendetta - 130pts

Vendetta - 130pts

Valkyrie - 130pts
MRPs

2x Medusa - 270pts

Manticore - 160pts

Manticore - 160pts

2000pts

You lose the AC HWS, but your effectivily getting an extra AC and each blob can fire on a target with 2 ACs. I kept in your Chimeras, your Elites, and even got you a OotF.

How does that grab ya?

Well that is a really cool list and i like it a lot, but that would mean a lot of selling and buying of new products , which i dont really want to do , as i am a little short on money.


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This is just a question but would this look a little better....
CCS - 155pts
LC, 2x Plasma guns, Chimera

PBS - 155pts
+4 Psykers, Chimera

Marbro - 65pts

PCS - 55pts (in Vendetta)
4x Flamers, Melta bomb

PIS - 120pts (blob 1)
Commissar, 2x PWs, Melta gun, Melta bomb,

PIS - 75pts (blob 1)
PW, Melta gun, Melta bomb,

PCS - 55pts (in Vendetta)
4x Flamers, Melta bomb

PIS - 120pts (blob 2)
Commissar, 2x PWs, Melta gun, Melta bomb,

PIS - 75pts (blob 2)
PW, Melta gun, Melta bomb,

SWS - 65pts (in Valk)
3x Melta gun

HWT-75pts
3xautocannon

Vendetta - 130pts

Vendetta - 130pts

Valkyrie - 130pts
MRPs

2x Medusa - 275pts
1xbastion breacher shells

Manticore - 160pts

Manticore - 160pts

2000pts

Yeah, that can work. I wouldn't mix the Medusas though as once you give the one BB, that is all it can fire. Split the last 5pts up for two bolt pistols or bolters...maybe BPs on the two PCSs.

Good luck Luke!

I rethought it ,due to money and modling wise, hows about this...
Company command squad Lascannon,2xplasma guns,astropath, chimera 185

Battle pskyers 5+pskyers, chimera 165
Storm troopers 2xMeltaguns 105
Platoon command squad 4xflamers 50
Infantry squad commisar, 2power weapons, meltagun, melta bombs 120
Infantry squad Power weapon, meltagun, melta bombs 75
Platoon command squad 4xmelta guns, melta bombs 75
Infantry squad commisar, 2power weapons, meltagun, melta bombs 120
Infantry squad Power weapon, meltagun, melta bombs 75

Special weapons team 3xflamers 50
Vendatta No upgrades 130
Vendatta No upgrades 130
Valkyrie Multiply missile pods 130

Medusa squadron 2xMedusa 270
Manticore No upgrades 160
Manticore No upgrades 160

Hi Luke,
I think if you've got 3 AC HWT's already, popping them in your blobs as suggested above would be quite a good move - they're very survivable, and give you some long range firepower on the cheap. Having them as a separate squad makes them vulnerable, although I see you've taken that out of your latest list.

I think your new list is extremely solid for what it does, although having some kind of heavy weapons in the blobs would be good - in large games, 20-man blobs die easy, and if you've only got meltaguns you might find it difficult to make your points back from them. Having some long-range weaponry on them should hopefully irritate your foe enough to come into melta range with something. Just remember that the purpose of the blobs are to help you win, not just to sit and shoot all game - that's a lesson I only learned recently myself.

Also, general web-consensus is that storm troopers are overpriced for what they do. For the 105pts you've spent on 5 with 2 melta, you could get 10 vets with 3 melta and give them a ride in one of your vendettas or valks. But that's just stats and web-logic, go with your gut and your budget!

Thanks "Captain Roderick" , thats is quite useful but it is allmessing in with modelling wise and money wise with the last list and you said it is a "soild" list so that will be fine for, me and my enrivorment isnt to competive, it is nice to win though.

Yeah, if Luke is attacking with his blobs, then HWTs in them are useless. If he was a gunline, would make total sense. He seems to be attacking.

If your holding a blob back, tossing a HWT or two into it (even Mortars) are worth it just to give them something at range. Obviously I prefer ACs, but the points need to be gotten from somewhere.

I take it the only troops you have hanging back are the ones in the Vendettas/Valk?

I would almost look at re-equipping your CCS, as if it was hanging back, Camo cloaks would work better than the Chimera. I honestly feel if you want the CCS in a Chimera, it should be attacking then with 4 Plasma... drop the LC and Astropath and you can get 2 more plasma guns and Carapace armor and use your CCS as a plasma platform, tossing out orders to the blob or the Melta PCS (if it is in range).

EVeryone has you covered, my advice is not needed.


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But, it's a nice list and good luck with your games but above all... have fun!