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After some intrapersonnel debate on wether to post this in the BAO 2012 tickets thread or here, I decided here was probably better.

Scenario: You charge (or get tank shocked by) a LR Achilles with a unit equiped with meltabombs. The entry in the 40k 5th Ed. rulebook says its a cc grenade that grants the bearer with a strength 8 + 2D6 attack for armour penetration. It in no way says this weapon has the 'Melta' USR.

So does the Achilles negate the 2D6 and make it 1D6 for armour penetration? Or (as I have come to understand it) do you still rock the Achilles world and mess it up? ( I tend to roll well on the pen. chart, so the -1 pen. result that the Achilles has is of no matter. :-) )

Care to offer a comment?

( Reecius <sorry if mis-spelled>, I'm hoping you, or one of your compatriots, can make a ruling)

If it only ignores 'melta' (like the stormraven) then it's toast against meltabombs.

Meltabombs do NOT have the 'melta' rule.
They are not AP1 (so no bonus to the table - but also NOT AP-, either).

Melta /= Meltabombs, no melta rule

Yup, the melta bombs don't actually have the melta rule. Just a similar name!

If the vote comes back yes for IA apocalypse second ed units for the BAO, then we would rule that they work to full effect on the Achilles.

Sweet, thanks guys.

Moot point now. Meh.