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Questions in regards to these two.

In Strakhov's Tier/Theme army list the Kayazy Assassins are listed as being allowable models. Is it allowable or planned to be allowable to include the Kayazy Eliminators in those lists?

As written now, No, they are not permitted in his theme list. As to the future, who knows.

It's specifically written as the assassins, and they're considered a Khador Ally Unit.

I know that my eCaine list says Arcane Tempest units and Arcane Tempest Solos, so I can include the Black 13, and the Gun Mage Adept Solo (because it says under their name Arcane Tempest [Character] Unit/Solo.

And I doubt they will become an addition to his list later (unless they write new ones) because there is a warbeast for Circle in Domination that has a specific ability that says he may be taken in Kromac's theme list.

So they have evidence of amending theme lists with later books, but it is a book that came out after Wrath did, so if it's not in there now, I don't think it will be there in the future.

Alfndrate wrote:And I doubt they will become an addition to his list later (unless they write new ones) because there is a warbeast for Circle in Domination that has a specific ability that says he may be taken in Kromac's theme list.

The Special Issue rules are included to the new models to enable casters to take the character beasts/ jacks they are associated with in their theme lists.

I know, and the eliminators do not have that special issue rule... which is why I doubt they will be included in a future list.

Are the Eliminators not "Kayazy Assassin Unit" on the top of the card?

Like how Blackbane's Ghost Raiders are "Revenant Unit" as well.

Have they been Released yet? I havent seen anywhere that I can purchase them.

not yet, I think February. (possibly January)

According to their entry in the Wrath book, it says Kayazy Eliminators "Khador Ally Unit"

february 8th for release.

i dont know about the wording, but i cannot wait to get the models. ive been proxying them with strakhov and eVlad for months now.

*note, not in strakhov's tier, which is garbage because you need to waste at least 10 points on AK's.

Thats strange, considering that the Kayazy Assassins are also a "Khador Ally Unit" and placed in Strahkov's army list.

Oh well, its a bummer cause they certainly would have been a great addition to an already fun list.

Comintern wrote:Thats strange, considering that the Kayazy Assassins are also a "Khador Ally Unit" and placed in Strahkov's army list.

Oh well, its a bummer cause they certainly would have been a great addition to an already fun list.

They have it listed like that because I think the kayazy can be used in merc armies, but Strahkov's theme list specifically says the Assassins.. Not Kayazy or "Khador Ally Unit" if it did, then you could use the Eliminators.

Alfndrate wrote:According to their entry in the Wrath book, it says Kayazy Eliminators "Khador Ally Unit"

3/3 eh?

Hey, there are three outs in baseball, why not keep beating a dead horse? I thought that is how people got information across in the internet

Comintern wrote:Thats strange, considering that the Kayazy Assassins are also a "Khador Ally Unit" and placed in Strahkov's army list.

Oh well, its a bummer cause they certainly would have been a great addition to an already fun list.

Note it says "Kayazy Assassins" and not "Kayazy units" like it says for eIrusk's tier list on the previous page of the same book. It's not strange at all. PP has future proofed the theme lists to a certain extent. Note how in Zerkhova and eButcher's theme lists have access to "Doom Reaver solos", eIrusk "Kayazy solos" and pIrusk and eVlad with "Iron Fang solos". No such units exist right now.

I figured I would just ask cause I wasnt sure. I only have the Khador Book and in it, Torch, the Character Jack for Strahkov isnt in his list. However, I heard that one was added to it. So I figured I would double check on the Kazazy Eliminators since they seem to mesh with the Assassins & Man-hunter aspects of his list.

though, perhaps that would just be overkill.

Markov is the Iron Fang solo as Fenris is the Doom Reaver solo.

correlation2 wrote:Markov is the Iron Fang solo as Fenris is the Doom Reaver solo.

Have a read of the book again. It's a little convoluted as Fenris is mentioned by name as he is not a Doom Reaver solo (for some reason, go figure).

Grimtuff wrote:

correlation2 wrote:Markov is the Iron Fang solo as Fenris is the Doom Reaver solo.

Have a read of the book again. It's a little convoluted as Fenris is mentioned by name as he is not a Doom Reaver solo (for some reason, go figure).

I had a very similar reaction, and went and checked it. Grimtuff is right, Fenris is the Dragoon solo... he grants some things to the reavers, but he is not a doom reaver himself

Oh, right. Dragoon is a pain in the ass as far as rules/terminology in Warmachine. LOL.