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A unique situation occurred for me during a match last Saturday that I wasn't prepared for. My opponent charged a unit of boyz with a Blood Angels Tactical squad and with a Furioso Dreadnaught with blood talons. The Dread was in base to base with 3 orks and another 6 were within 2 inches of these.

1) When it came time for the dreadnaught to attack it caused 5 wounds. Can I allocate to the 3 that are in base to base and avoid the other 2 wounds?
2) If I have to allocate all 5 but choose to remove those in base to base, does he get to attack again with the blood talons, even though he is no longer in base to base?
3) Do the blood talons get to keep going until he wipes the entire unit out or doesn't cause any more wounds, even though they are engaged with another unit and not in range or base to base with the dreadnaught?

No, Yes, Yes.

Rig has it correct.

Who can attack is determined at the beginning of a round of combat.

So usually, regardless of casualties, you will get to keep attacking with the Furioso even if you remove casualties from B2B

This is why we all run away from talon dreads...they just keep killing!

GreyChaos wrote:This is why we all run away from talon dreads...they just keep killing!

No we must stand and fight...THE LINE MUST BE DRAWN HEEEEAAARR!!

wormark wrote:A unique situation occurred for me during a match last Saturday that I wasn't prepared for. My opponent charged a unit of boyz with a Blood Angels Tactical squad and with a Furioso Dreadnaught with blood talons. The Dread was in base to base with 3 orks and another 6 were within 2 inches of these.

1) When it came time for the dreadnaught to attack it caused 5 wounds. Can I allocate to the 3 that are in base to base and avoid the other 2 wounds?
2) If I have to allocate all 5 but choose to remove those in base to base, does he get to attack again with the blood talons, even though he is no longer in base to base?
3) Do the blood talons get to keep going until he wipes the entire unit out or doesn't cause any more wounds, even though they are engaged with another unit and not in range or base to base with the dreadnaught?

It's probably worth reviewing the 5th ed assault rules again.

1. Wounds can be dealt/allocated to any model in the unit, regardless of how far away they are. This is usually actually a bit benefit to Orks, as when the enemy attacks first with their higher Initiative, you can remove your casualties from models farthest away, leaving the guys close up alive to attack at full effect when their Initiative step rolls around.
2. As described in the assault rules, you determine which enemy units a given enemy unit can attack at the beginning of each assault (errated in the main rulebook errata to each ROUND OF assault), after assault moves are all made but before any model attacks (in that round). So even if the models in base contact with the dread are removed before his initiative step, he still gets to attack.
3. Yep. They keep going until he wipes them out or fails to inflict an unsaved wound. Remember that he still has to roll to hit with those extra attacks, though. Usually they'll miss after a while. On average I think they normally kill somewhere in the 7-10 range. Remember also that he doesn't get this ability unless both talons are intact, though, so even a single Weapon Destroyed result against the Furioso eliminates the blender ability.

thanks