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as I just got a Box of Assault Terminators for a prize i figured i might aswell run a army that can use em well So i was just wondering what army uses them best?
So far I know

BT can get FC
BA can get FC and FNP
C:SM can get master crafted hammernators

A squad of BA Assault Terminators with 2+ armor and FnP with some stormshields mixed in for 3++ invul can be very hard to bring down. Salamander assault termies are pretty badass too but not quite that much.

DA

An army of fearless TH/SS termies with CMLs is very competitive. And one unit of them can be FNP.

Whats better than 1 squad of terminators? 9 squads of terminators, 6 of which are scoring. (one squad can have FnP)

Dark Angels all the way

Some other advantages/combos you left out:

BA can also combine their FC/FNP terminators with Unleash Rage from a Librarian, or a Chaplain to give them re-rolls against anything on the charge. Re-rolls are extra nasty, and the chaplain combo means a whole lotta S9 hammers bludgeoning even fast-moving vehicles to death.

One of the best advantages vanilla SM pair with their assault termies, even above the Vulkan master-crafting, is Null Zone from a Librarian. Null Zone means you can reliably tear a new one out of even other units with a 3+ invulnerable.

Well, I'd say that you can't go wrong, when the army has enough synergy. Shrike and Termies with FoF are also an option.

IMHO, C:SM have the biggest use for Assault Termies since they don't have many options in the assault department to begin with (honestly who fields Vanguard Vets?) while BA and BT are pretty spoilt for choices here.

So Salamanders, BA and BT really all need landraiders to get assault marines into battle. This requires a large force to make really work, this is ok as at lower points as vanilla marines can do without any cc unit.

Shrike can make great use of assault marines at low cost battles.
So can DA, if they have a CML. I wouldn't take 9 squads, that is rather silly and not so interesting in any case.

Well, if you consider BT, you can take up to 5 small Terminator squads with 2 CMLs each.

wuestenfux wrote:Well, if you consider BT, you can take up to 5 small Terminator squads with 2 CMLs each.

But not assault termies, as was requested, unlike the Deathwing.

You're forgetting the best part about BT. Which is preffered enemy! So combined with FC. You can have a squad of 7-8 termies with FC and PE come barrelling out of a crusader that ignores the lance rule, and can provide fire support with PotMS vindis.

So 5 S5, Int 5, rerolling to hit and wound not enough? Smack 'em with some S9 Thunderhammers! So many people say DA because they can do everything...kinda they can shoot as well but I would rather play my BT against a deathwing list. Keep in mind that the BT stormshields are notw 3++ as well. Also BT termies don't have to have FC. You can take counter attack or I believe inflitrate instead.

BT do termis. That's what they've done for years and what they will do.

Akroma06 wrote:You're forgetting the best part about BT. Which is preffered enemy! So combined with FC. You can have a squad of 7-8 termies with FC and PE come barrelling out of a crusader that ignores the lance rule, and can provide fire support with PotMS vindis.

So 5 S5, Int 5, rerolling to hit and wound not enough? Smack 'em with some S9 Thunderhammers! So many people say DA because they can do everything...kinda they can shoot as well but I would rather play my BT against a deathwing list. Keep in mind that the BT stormshields are notw 3++ as well. Also BT termies don't have to have FC. You can take counter attack or I believe inflitrate instead.

BT do termis. That's what they've done for years and what they will do.

This. Everyone goes "ooh, BA can get Unleashed Rage and Furious Charge from a character, awesome!", but Templars get that just because they feel like it.

There is the good old fashioned 'shrike' tactic and you can give those thunder hammers the 'scout' special rule!! take that line of tanks...

Lets not forget the synergy between scouting bikes with homing beacons and the Deathwing Assault special rule.

I believe Deathwing can take CMLs in Assault Terminator squads, which is part of why the army works.

MrEconomics wrote:I believe Deathwing can take CMLs in Assault Terminator squads, which is part of why the army works.

Deathwing don't have two different types of Terminator squad. They get Terminators, with (aside from limits on numbers of heavy weapons) whatever gear you want to give them.

No dice with counterattack or infiltrate I'm afraid. We can have tank hunters though.


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And for 45 points we get to reroll both righteous zeal AND consolidation moves

And as for BT storm shields, they are the 3++ like everyone else now, read your faq. But us BT also can take Lac's as dedicated transports. Lightning claws or t-hammer/storm shield are free choices, and FC and TH os only 3 points a model.

Akroma06 wrote:You're forgetting the best part about BT. Which is preffered enemy! So combined with FC. You can have a squad of 7-8 termies with FC and PE come barrelling out of a crusader that ignores the lance rule, and can provide fire support with PotMS vindis.

So 5 S5, Int 5, rerolling to hit and wound not enough? Smack 'em with some S9 Thunderhammers! So many people say DA because they can do everything...kinda they can shoot as well but I would rather play my BT against a deathwing list. Keep in mind that the BT stormshields are notw 3++ as well. Also BT termies don't have to have FC. You can take counter attack or I believe inflitrate instead.

BT do termis. That's what they've done for years and what they will do.

They still need to come in a 'raider to work. Which still needs the some support.
I do agree they need less support and are better than vanilla marines, like BA for me that means you can field them below 2000 pts which really ultrasmurfs can not afford.

Deathwing field their termies at any points cost and can do so well.
Against your army I think DA would try to out shoot you and then they will probably hold their own in assault.
Then again I haven't faced assaulty BT. Against shooty BT I deathwing assaulted and essentially won in cc, which a little sad with BT's fluff, it was a tough fight

Unfortunately our fluff doesn't jive with our gameplay right now, give it a month or so and it should be better, as for not holding our own, we have to go all one or the other to work, it is either gun line or close combat, with a few side strategies like. MSU or las-back spam, but over all our most consistently non-specialized list is the gunline, and if you take AACNMTO as your vow you can at least hold your own during assaults.

If that si all you have I would say do DA Deathwing. Get another box of terminators and convert one to belial