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Well here's my first list on the forums for a good review. First off, a big thanks to all the other Ork players here that have really helped me learn the game over the last few months. I have been doing really well in the 500 point world and by next week I should be playing some 1000 point games. Some of the ideas in these two lists are yours .

I just play friendly/competitive at local GW store and in garage with friends. Wouldn't mind moving into some tourney play eventually but still building up. I realize this isn't a tournament list, but I am trying to make a Grotsnik list that is viable. I have two variations, love to hear everyone's thoughts on the lists. In both examples, Grotsnik goes with Choppa Boyz and runs full speed ahead. Buggies are there to prevent grots kiting, Manz in trukk are in reserve.

List 1: Dok's 'Arder Meganobs

Dok Grotsnik 160
20 Shoota Boyz nob/bp/pk/2BShootas 170
28 Boyz Nob/BP/PK 208
10 Grots + RH 40
5 Manz Scorcha/Rokkit/2Stock 5Cybork+Trukk+ram+RPJ+Riggers 285
3 Rokkit Buggies TLR 135

Total 998



List 2 Dok's Cybork Overdose

Dok Grotsnik 160
20 Shoota Boyz nob/bp/pk/2BShootas 170
23 Boyz Cyborked Nob/BP/PK/'Eavy Armor(nob only not 'ard boyz) 298
10 Grots + RH 40
3 Manz Scorcha/Rokkit/Stock 3Cybork+Trukk+ram+RPJ+Riggers 195
3 Rokkit Buggies TLR 135

Total 998

Something to think about is putting Cybork on all your Boyz (and your Grotz too! Had a tourney this last week where one of the better competitors was a full-on cy-grot list; from what I could tell, it was just scything through all the Necrons there). That'd probably be enough to help bump you up to 1500 points right there.


In any case, Cybork lists are incredibly 'ard, though not as killy as most Ork lists- much increased survivability, but not as many weapons, which is how Orks make most of their kills.

Honestly, I'd say go with the second list, but maybe consider dropping the 'eavy Armour on the Boyz for Cybork on the Grots- because, though I love the 'ard Boyz, the Cybork w/ FnP is pretty much just as good, and adding that 5++ to the Grots makes them ridiculously stubborn.

Manz, of course, are best used as a guided missile to take out the biggest threat on the board as soon as possible.

Anvildude wrote:Something to think about is putting Cybork on all your Boyz (and your Grotz too! Had a tourney this last week where one of the better competitors was a full-on cy-grot list; from what I could tell, it was just scything through all the Necrons there). That'd probably be enough to help bump you up to 1500 points right there.


In any case, Cybork lists are incredibly 'ard, though not as killy as most Ork lists- much increased survivability, but not as many weapons, which is how Orks make most of their kills.

Honestly, I'd say go with the second list, but maybe consider dropping the 'eavy Armour on the Boyz for Cybork on the Grots- because, though I love the 'ard Boyz, the Cybork w/ FnP is pretty much just as good, and adding that 5++ to the Grots makes them ridiculously stubborn.

Manz, of course, are best used as a guided missile to take out the biggest threat on the board as soon as possible.

The armor is just on the nob because I had 5 pts to spend, not the whole squad. Borked grots is a funny idea, not necesarily a good one, but funny yes. I would hate to be the guy that charges a group of 19 borked grots then loses combat because he couldn't kill enough.

So the cybork helped alot vs crons huh?

Apparently. I only saw, didn't play, but both times I looked in, it was dozens of little bright-colored grots swarming Nids- and it looked like the Grots were winning. The player basically had Grotsnik, Ghazzy/Snickrot-Kommandoes beatstick, and filled the rest of the 2000 points out with Cybork Grots.

lmfao. wow. I know first hand that 10grots+RH can kill a scout squad because I have done it THROUGH cover. The RH gets in base contact with 2 scouts + Sgt and that scout squad will die. the idea of having 30 grots +3 RH cyborked tar pitting every damn thing on the board while cyborked commandos and FNP ghazz and the Dokk+ snikrot buttrape everything on the board hadn't really dawned on me yet lol.

Yep. Cygrots are brilliant for tarpitting, especially with the Grabbin' stick the Runtherd gets- reducing attacks is never a bad thing, and when all the rest have a 1/3 chance of being ignored...

Personally, though, I just prefer spamming armour and AP2.

I like list #1 better at 1,000 pts you'll be encountering at least one sort of deathstar unit or super unit that the opponent will depend on.

And the meganobz are ur best bet at dealing with them

list #2 seems to use 'ard boyz with cybork bodies instead but the 'ardboyz wont survive versus this deathstar type unit that is likely to be brought upon you.
and them being on foot means they'll take a lot of heat before they get there.

What is in your inventory? would be easier to offer suggestions based on what you own, unless you plan on getting new models?

If you are set on keeping the Cybork theme to the army I would highly recommend a few new models to incorporate into your list.

#1 - Big Mek with KFF. he just fits so well with this sort of Cybork mentality and he essentially gives the 5+ inv (5+ cover but you get the idea) to a couple units without you having to spend the actual points on them.

#2 - Killa Kans...they work well in any footsloggin list. And they fit into the cyber theme specially since you are already running grots.

#3 - Deff Dread, just to keep the theme. Dreads arent as good as Kans but hey if we are going to push the theme they'd be a good fit.


You can take out the warbuggies to add these units. and perhaps the unit of shootas could go too and just increase the grots mob if you have any more left to compensate on the troop choices.

Trying very hard to avoid KFF mek at all costs. Simply to try to build something viable that doesnt NEED a KFF mech.

I love the Mek, but I am just so sick of every build being pigeon-holed to a KFF Mek.
The Cyber grots sounds hilarious however I don't see me building 180 grots anytime soon.

Aiyou I have been looking at your Kommando builds and I really like them. Dok w Kommandoes and a warboss or Ghaz is vicious. It's possibly a litte wrong to run it every time in a friendly setting, but I see people at local store run Draigowing and the Purifier "Lolz multi assault and 60 orks are dead!" crap all the time so I would not feel guilty in the least about ambushing Ghazz into one of those guys.

As far as what I own it's not really an issue because I am just starting and money isn't really an issue-just time. I have two aobr sets, the MANz I have are assault termieTo Ork conversions(they are turning out great). like 15 lootas, 30 shoota boyz, grots+RH,will have 3 Kans and Deffdread next week. The Dok, warboss I am planning on convertin second box of Aobr Boyz to build Kommandoes,2 Deffkoptas, gonna do the Kopta to buggy conversion. Thats it.

Could try a Cybork Horde- Da Shinin' Tide! Each boy would cost, what, 11? Make it an even 12 with Stikkbombs, just 'cause. With Grotsnik you could probably get about 100 Boyz with Nobz in a 1500 point list. Then you have 500 to play with for 2000 point games.


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Though for 1000 points, you'd need, what? 50-70 boyz?

Yeah "Da Shiny Tide" with maybe 60 grots(love the tarpit idea), some boyz, and cyborked manz in trukks in reserve would be fun, keep the theme, and probably be viable.