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Quick question, sorry if this sounds obvious but I need an answer.

Today I had a game of Necrons V Tau and I had a Cryptek attached to an Immortal squad guarding an objective.
Later throughout the game there were only 2 immortals left and the cryptek. But only the cryptek was within objective range.

Does the cryptek count as part of the troop choice of the unit, or because he is a character (former extra HQ as well) he cannot capture the object?

Blackgaze wrote:Quick question, sorry if this sounds obvious but I need an answer.

Today I had a game of Necrons V Tau and I had a Cryptek attached to an Immortal squad guarding an objective.
Later throughout the game there were only 2 immortals left and the cryptek. But only the cryptek was within objective range.

Does the cryptek count as part of the troop choice of the unit, or because he is a character (former extra HQ as well) he cannot capture the object?

He can capture the objective just fine. He is a part of the troop unit, even more so than an IC might be.

Still, he would be able to even if he was an IC. Once an IC is a part of a troop unit, he is a part of that unit for all intents and purposes, until he leaves (or until the assault phase).

puma713 wrote:

Blackgaze wrote:Quick question, sorry if this sounds obvious but I need an answer.

Today I had a game of Necrons V Tau and I had a Cryptek attached to an Immortal squad guarding an objective.
Later throughout the game there were only 2 immortals left and the cryptek. But only the cryptek was within objective range.

Does the cryptek count as part of the troop choice of the unit, or because he is a character (former extra HQ as well) he cannot capture the object?

He can capture the objective just fine. He is a part of the troop unit, even more so than an IC might be.

Still, he would be able to even if he was an IC. Once an IC is a part of a troop unit, he is a part of that unit for all intents and purposes, until he leaves (or until the assault phase).

Ok thanks, that helps!

As he is attached much the same way as wolfguard to space wolf units I would agree - he becomes a troops choice when attached to a unit of warriors/immortals and can score even when all alone.

Yup he can claim because he cant leave the unit. So he is part of it for all intents and purposes.

Even if he could leave the unit (IC) he could claim - as he's treated as part of the unit.

If he left the unit he'd obviously not be a Troop anymore, so couldn't claim.

not true - he needs to be a troops choice or have a rule allowing him to score. The reason the royal court can score is because they become part of the squad they join prior to the game starting.

Massaen wrote:not true - he needs to be a troops choice or have a rule allowing him to score. The reason the royal court can score is because they become part of the squad they join prior to the game starting.

If he's an IC and has joined a Troop unit, and is still part of that unit, then the unit is within 3" of the objective as long as the IC is.

This has nothing to do with the Cryptek though, so I'll drop it as off-topic for the thread.

Massaen wrote:not true - he needs to be a troops choice or have a rule allowing him to score. The reason the royal court can score is because they become part of the squad they join prior to the game starting.

If an IC is joined to a Scoring unit and the IC is within 3", then by definition of measuring TO units the UNIT is also within 3", meaning they can claim the objective.

P48 and 49, the IC is a normal member of the unit

How about if the cryptek was the only model left from the immortal unit (due to shooting for example)...could he capture then?

Yes,folliowing the WG ruling.

Until or unless they specifically FAQ it the only sensible course of action is to treat them as WG