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Hey all, got a small tournament with friends coming up and kind of ranging between two lists. I know having special characters in a 1250 like this might be points heavy but I also know I'll probably be going against some heavy special characters also (Sanguinor for example). These are the two lists I've got together, lemme know what you think.

List 1 - 1250

Marneus Calgar

5-Man Assault Terminator Squad
- 4 TH/SS
- 1 Lightning Claw (Would go all TH/SS but don't have the models)

Land Raider

Tac Squad 1
-Sarge with PW
-Meltagun
-Missile Launcher
-Rhino

Tac Squad 2
-Sarge with PW
-Meltagun
-Missile Launcher
-Rhino

Scouts
-4 Snipers
-Heavy Bolter /w Hellfire rounds



List 2 - 1250

Pedro Kantor

Tac Squad 1
-Sarge with PW
-Meltagun
-Missile Launcher
-Rhino

Tac Squad 2
-Sarge with PW
-Meltagun
-Missile Launcher
-Rhino

10 Man Sternguard Vet Squad
- All Combi-Plasmaguns
- Drop Pod

Honour Guard
- Chapter Champion
- 3 Honour Guard
- Rhino

Dreadnought
-Multi-Melta
-DCCW

Any tweaks and preferences are welcomed. Let me have it! Fluff wise I'm actually playing as a successor Dark Angels Chapter and renamed all the Special Characters to match my own Chapter. I felt Kantor and Calgar's rules compliment my thoughts of how actual Tactical Dark Angels should be. Thanks all!

Actually I think it is easier to build a good deathwing list at 1250 than vanilla marines.

Calgar is too many points, here you really feel it. Land raiders are huge bricks, they are too expensive for 1250 pts.

I know the snipers just fill points but you do not that many scoring troops.

Pedro really only makes sense if you use it to take less troops by taking 3 units of sternguard(that is it only makes sense at higher points.)

If the drop pod fails, like for example the BA list decides to go full reserve, then you have lost a lot of points. But then if they drop with just about LOS with sanguinor then they'll blast him away first turn

Honour guard I like but they are a waste of points, especially in a rhino.

I can not think about small ways to correct either list. Maybe use the second list as a full on drop pod list? Good luck

Thanks for the response. The last tourney I did a full Deathwing at 1000pts but I was thinking of doing something different for this tourney. I know my Deathwing list pretty well, was just toying with the idea of a solid Space Marines list.