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I can see a couple different possibilities for how they will use the rules to swing model sales, and was curious as to what the various personalities on dakka think.

1. Same basic rules as current edition, supporting ranges that currently sell well in an effort to drive up profits.

2. Significant changes to the current edition, nerfing the currently powerful armies and empowering the currently nerfed so as to drive sales up for underperforming lines

Thoughts? Comments?

I suggest you try enjoying Christmas instead of fretting about such things.

They will make fast attack universally better as right now they're fairly awful for most books. Then they can sell you super expensive bike kits

I think it will follow the pattern of Fantasy. Fantasy core rules dramatically increased the importance, role, and feasibility of large troop blocks. Then the prices of those troops were increased with troop release / updates, seeing model per box decrease. Orc boys are one of the most offensive examples: went from 19 boys for 35$ to 10 boys for $29, exact same models.

For 40k, we may see that huge numbers of troop squads all mounted in transports are really critical to list building. What if they did something in the core rules like say, "dedicated transports can only be used by squad purchased for, and see a 10% or 25% decrease in point cost for that transport". This would make numerous mounted troop units very field-able. We've already seen rumors of FOC disappearing and going to percentages. So, no more being limited to only 6 troops... You could take as many as you want. Do you know how many Ork Boyz in trukks this could mean??? I'm sure GW does.

This is all speculation, but it is guaranteed that some way of increasing the ability and desirability of people to take more models will be inherent in the new edition.

New 40k will also likely add terrain effects so that the specialized terrain pieces will be needed or at least desirable. Likely there will be some reason to buy a Realm of Battle board, too.

One thing is clear about the last Fantasy update: rules were blatantly adjusted to drive increased model sales. No matter how, we'll see the same in 40k.

What reason could they give for needing a ROB board?)

mikhaila wrote:What reason could they give for needing a ROB board?)

I don't know, but I'm sure there are team meetings to brainstorm using this new innovation of a white board to come up with some reason. They may not succeed, but it would not surprise me if they came up with some way to do so!

Edit: Oh, and as an examples, see the Fantasy Storm of Magic item of yadda-yadda-plate-tectonics, which allows the user to pick up a RoB section and trade it with another. Yeah, you can do it without the board, but the magic item was clearly designed with use of the board in mind. this is an example of RoB characteristic driving the implementation of rules to facilitate its use and purchase.

Mebbe there will be bonuses if you capture skulldanium ore veins? LOL

Gymnogyps wrote:I think it will follow the pattern of Fantasy. Fantasy core rules dramatically increased the importance, role, and feasibility of large troop blocks.

Uh... no... the interwebz did that when people were grubbing around for ways to break the rules. But as the game progresses and changes, increasingly the big bocks are becoming less important than tactics and strategies. 6th ed with be the same, and the canny player will not be sucked into the buying war advocated by the interwebz and blamed on GW.

GW is in the business of selling models. The next edition needs to sell new armies to people as well as figures to people who already have all the figures they need. They'll accomplish the latter by new and improved sculpts as well as fascilitating a greater model count per army. This has always been the GW way and shall always be.

Well plenty of rumours abound that 6th Edition will favour troops over vehicles.

5th Edition really was the edition of the mech army, and I think 6th will encourage people to buy more infantry.

I also suspect something along the lines of Storm of magic, which will allow you to buy units from other codices as allies, or big monsters / vehicles / scenery that can be used in any army.

I imagine that there will be the impetus on, as StraightSilver said, to ally as its a sure fire way of making money from the majority of your customers. I remember in 2nd edition where they actually laid out who could ally with who.

This edition was so focused on selling you transports that there has to be another turn, probably as someone said on to bike infantry, walker units as most armies that have them you don't see them on the board.

Don't think about it........

You enjoy the hobby much more that way..........

Thank you for the insight and opinions, y'all. Especially the thought police up in here, those are lovely as always. Bravo.

bombboy1252 wrote:Don't think about it........

You enjoy the hobby much more that way..........

Agreed fully.

Before I came to Dakka and saw the, err... fethstorm... about GW itself and all the stuff like this, I was all like, "WOOOOO!!!! WH40k! AWESOME!" and I found it really easy to get into the mood to play, and I was playing every week and having an awesome time.

As I kept reading, I found myself going on twenty to forty minute rants both over messaging programs on the Internet with friends, and also in real life with my family, about GW's latest plot to wrench money from their consumers.

I also found myself enjoying the game less...

When I heard Sisters of Battle would be getting a new Codex in White Dwarf, I was ecstatic. Then all the complaints and theories about how much GW hates Sisters of Battle eventually dragged my mood down, and I started to go on rants about those. I repeatedly found myself getting excited about Sisters of Battle stuff, coming to the boards to read and talk, finding nothing but negativity, having my mood ruined as I bought into the negativity, and coming away feeling far far worse than when I'd come on.

I eventually stopped playing WH40k for a few months, and even stopped building models for the most part - I still have two orders of female Guardsmen to build, as well as some boxes of Chaos Daemons I've had since August, as well as my Christmas stuff, plus an Ork Trukk I've again had since August, and a few Dark Angels Veterans I'm using as Sternguard, and I KNOW I'm forgetting a few things - and have even let my miniatures budget stack up through non-use, to the point where I can't remember how much I have left, because I stopped considering what to buy/if I should save for something bigger every two weeks.

I'm kinda... Well, I let what I read on the Internet affect me more than it should.

I would figure they would nerf cover saves or true line of sight some how.