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Hey everyone I own all these models and I'm ready to play and start preparing for ard boyz which everyday comes closer and closer. I'm hosting a 2000 tournament at my LGS in northern California to help start preparing. It's on the 1/15/12 and I need help making last minute tweaks please tell me what you think and what you think I will have to watch out. My main opponents are GK DE Necrons and SW. And keep in mind that one of the three good GK player won all the way through semi finals of ard boyz with tyranids and GK now!! And keep in mind that one of the three good GK player won all the way through semi finals of ard boyz with tyranids and GK now!! Things I need most help on is what should be in the vendetta and what your thought on 500 more points I can add in for ard boyz I plan on taking the demolisher out for 2 medusas. And I was thing hellhounds but which kind is most effective the bane, hell or devil. Thanks everyone

Imperial guard 2000
Company command , x4 plasma guns w/chimera EA HF
Company command , x4 plasma guns w/chimera EA HF
Veterans, x3 plasma guns 115
Veterans, x3 plasma guns 115
Veterans, x3 melta, chimera  HF EA
Veterans, x3 melta, chimera HF EA
Veterans, x3 melta, chimera HF
Veterans, x3 melta, chimera HF
 Vendetta 130
Vendetta 130
Manticore 160
Manticore 160
Demolisher LRBT w/ LC 180

Just because the last thread (before you got it locked) you had you butchered the rules concerning the Manticore, I am going to help you and show you the rules you need to read to understand for how to play it right.

Manticore-
Storm Eagle Rockets -
24"-120", Str 10, AP 4, Ordnance Barrage D3*, Large Blast
*roll this every time the weapon fires

It is not a 'template' weapon, it is a multiple barrage weapon that follows the multiple barrage rules on page 32 BRB. You roll a d6 and divide it by 2 to figure out how many blast markers you are placing every time you fire following those rules.
Then read page 58 BRB concerning moving and firing because you have a hull weapon. Then read page 60 BRB under Ordnance Weapons and Armor penitration and under Template and Blast weapons against vehicles.

Your list /still/ has 2 units (Vendettas) that are AV 12 that is your primary (Turn 1 &2) anti-armor for high AV. Then you have two (Manticores) that have a /chance/, but only hit 1/3 of the time and scatter minus BS 3 if you direct fire or full scatter if you fire it indirect. When it does scatter, you have to /hope/ the center hole of the blast marker covers the vehicle. This is just to unreliable to /depend/ on, and if your firing direct your now exposed to counter fire yourself.

All the points your wasting on Extra Armor (I have to guess since your not listing points for your units and that is what EA means) could be a Advisor like a OotF. If your worried about 'Gets Hot!' rolls, buy Carapace cheap for your CCSs. The LC on the Demolisher is kinda of a throw away, due to the BS 3 since shot, though it does give you a AT choice at range. Just note the same rules for Ordnance apply to the Demolisher, so if you go off on a rant about how awesome the Demolisher cannon is against vehicles because of AP or some other thing that doesn't matter, you would be wrong.

Your welcome.

Masos wrote:Hey everyone I own all these models and I'm ready to play and start preparing for ard boyz which everyday comes closer and closer. I'm hosting a 2000 tournament at my LGS in northern California to help start preparing. It's on the 1/15/12 and I need help making last minute tweaks please tell me what you think and what you think I will have to watch out. My main opponents are GK DE Necrons and SW. And keep in mind that one of the three good GK player won all the way through semi finals of ard boyz with tyranids and GK now!! And keep in mind that one of the three good GK player won all the way through semi finals of ard boyz with tyranids and GK now!! Things I need most help on is what should be in the vendetta and what your thought on 500 more points I can add in for ard boyz I plan on taking the demolisher out for 2 medusas. And I was thing hellhounds but which kind is most effective the bane, hell or devil. Thanks everyone

Imperial guard 2000
Company command , x4 plasma guns w/chimera EA HF
Company command , x4 plasma guns w/chimera EA HF
Veterans, x3 plasma guns 115
Veterans, x3 plasma guns 115
Veterans, x3 melta, chimera  HF EA
Veterans, x3 melta, chimera HF EA
Veterans, x3 melta, chimera HF
Veterans, x3 melta, chimera HF
 Vendetta 130
Vendetta 130
Manticore 160
Manticore 160
Demolisher LRBT w/ LC 180

This might sound crazy, but i think the Demolisher is "Odd man out". It's the only av 14 you have.
I'd consider going full av 12 spam. For example:

Company command , x4 plasma guns w/chimera HF 165
Company command , x4 plasma guns w/chimera HF 165
Veterans, x3 plasma guns chimera HF 170
Veterans, x3 plasma guns chimera HF 170
Veterans, x3 melta, chimera HF 155
Veterans, x3 melta, chimera HF 155
Veterans, x3 melta, chimera HF 155
Veterans, x3 melta, chimera HF 155
Vendetta 130
Vendetta 130
Vendetta 130
Manticore 160
Manticore 160

Edit: forgot the list come to 2k even.

And be nice BlkTom, he seems to be playing nice!

Heh... I am giving him a second chance.

Thank you guys very much I appreciate the advice. I will deff go with the av 12 spam for all games to come I will invest in a couple medusas to replace the demolisher and I will be buying more chimeras. YAY!!! Lol well thanks for responding I have been trying to figure this list out and Blktom you were right and I obviously need to adjust things and I have to agree with you on all fronts especially about the demolisher. I just need some advice, Should I just run the vendettas empty and take one out put in 2 more chimeras??

I have to back what Rick said for his advice. The list he gave you would probably be the same thing I would come up with. To put troops in the Vendettas would take Chimeras off of the board or take melta guns out of the Chimeras (change the Vets to a platoon for cheaper troops). The problem is that 3x Melta guns is what makes the chimeras a viable threat.

Yeah, it will kinda suck to have a 'home objective' that you will have to hold a chimera back, where a unit in a Vendetta can hang out around, but you just suck it up and try to table the enemy.

I will say this though, I personally do not run scatterable artillery with any list where my goal is to get in close combat or get within 6"-12" of the enemy because I do not want shots to scatter onto my stuff and kill it. I prefer direct fire support for attacking lists, but at this point your running out of options. Just be careful with your target selection.

Once again I thank you. Man I don't know what I'm gonna do now but you got it dead on the nose. This army is based around just tabling people which is cool bit it's a hit and miss so I'm going back to the cutting boards and I'm gonna play test some stuff out but do you think this list would be more competitive if I added in Pysker battle squad in chimera. I think I'm gonna try to play test a list with only platoons and 5 more chimeras in platoons. I was thinking 4 minimum platoons everyone in chimeras besides 2 regular IS that will be chilling in the vendettas. Im thinking here is, if i happend to scatter on my own units..... Oh well omaha beach there ass lol .That would push the number of vehicles in my army to 12 chimeras 2 vendetta 2 manticore 2 medusa. That's only 5 more chimeras I need to buy woot lol but once again I appreciate everything thanks for the great feed back