Stormraven ?

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**compdrag**

Ok I wanting to know if you can use a stormraven for a non grey knight/bloodangel space marine army i love the look of the model and want to add it to the army, but dont want to get it if I cant use it on the table.
thanks

**Tzarkahn**

No, GK and BA only.

**runmymouth**

If it's not in the codex you can't use it. With that said I have a feeling that as new codex's get done there is a high chance they will all be getting that vehicle.

**CT GAMER**

Tzarkahn wrote:No, GK and BA only for now...

Fixed that for you.

**compdrag**

Well hopefully they do because i want to get it. I guess with my red scheme I should get a blood angles codex so I can play it.

**mrwhoop**

I personally bought one for my salamanders just as a display 'it looks neat' model. I doubt C: SM will get the SR but until they do it may be better to wait or understand it may only play in super friendly games. Will rumors of C:SM getting it be true or will SM get a different flyer? No idea but I also didn't care when I bought it.

**CT GAMER**

mrwhoop wrote:I personally bought one for my salamanders just as a display 'it looks neat' model. I doubt C: SM will get the SR but until they do it may be better to wait or understand it may only play in super friendly games. Will rumors of C:SM getting it be true or will SM get a different flyer? No idea but I also didn't care when I bought it.

I see it going the same way the LR Crusader did...

**Horst**

mrwhoop wrote:I personally bought one for my salamanders just as a display 'it looks neat' model. I doubt C: SM will get the SR but until they do it may be better to wait or understand it may only play in super friendly games. Will rumors of C:SM getting it be true or will SM get a different flyer? No idea but I also didn't care when I bought it.

It looks GREAT in green...

Just field your army using the BA codex. Its what I did

lets me by all sorts of cool things like Baals and lots of assault marines! Its almost like I have a second army....

**compdrag**

thats what I plan on doing just getting a BA codex to use it.

**chromedog**

Horst wrote:
It looks GREAT in green...

Well, it looks no worse in green. It's still not an attractive model.
A GW designer threw it into the ugly tree and it hit every branch on the way down.

**Horst**

guess i'm in the minority that actually liked it :(

**North101**

You can use it in apoc games

**CT GAMER**

Horst wrote:guess i'm in the minority that actually liked it :(

Me to.

It is "ugly" in the SAME way that most marine vehicles are and fits perfectly into their range imho...

**sudojoe**

I actually really like the storm ravens. Heck I got 2 of them now and it's a lot of fun. Only problem I have with them is that they still get blown up a lot and there's no great way to hide so big and tall a model.

**Riddick40k**

Isn't there a WD that says Vanilla Marines can use them as a HS choice?

**Massaen**

Nope! I have heard that the powers that be at GW wanted to give it to all but the design team said no!

**insaniak**

Riddick40k wrote:Isn't there a WD that says Vanilla Marines can use them as a HS choice?

No. Its rules were printed in WD when it was released, from which some people assumed that they could take it in any Chapter.

The only way to do so rules-wise is to play Apocalypse.

**SylvanaSekNadin**

From a personal point of view, I hope they don't allow all chapters to take them. I feel that it takes away from the elite feel of the blood angels when their mastery of flight is suddenly common across the whole space marine spectrum. (I can understand grey knights using them as they are supposed to be the elite of the elite and get all the shiny toys.)

That said though, from a marketing point of view Games Workshop can sell more models if they make it available to all marine codex's and their deeply held desire for profit will probably make them do that.

**zeshin**

SylvanaSekNadin wrote:From a personal point of view, I hope they don't allow all chapters to take them. I feel that it takes away from the elite feel of the blood angels when their mastery of flight is suddenly common across the whole space marine spectrum. (I can understand grey knights using them as they are supposed to be the elite of the elite and get all the shiny toys.)

See also BT and the LR Crusader. It would be nice if they were the only army with an awesome assault variant of the LR, but now every marine army has that and a better version now in the Redeemer.

**Akroma06**

zeshin wrote:
SylvanaSekNadin wrote:From a personal point of view, I hope they don't allow all chapters to take them. I feel that it takes away from the elite feel of the blood angels when their mastery of flight is suddenly common across the whole space marine spectrum. (I can understand grey knights using them as they are supposed to be the elite of the elite and get all the shiny toys.)
See also BT and the LR Crusader. It would be nice if they were the only army with an awesome assault variant of the LR, but now every marine army has that and a better version now in the Redeemer.

This ^^^^

You get our LRC we get your thunderpigeon...err stormraven in the codex. That said I don't think they will go elsewhere as when the kit came out I believe it had a GK emblem that strongly hinted that the GK would get it well before the GK book came out. With no blank door I think it will stay a BA and GK thing.