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If you put a cryptek with deathmarks can you still deepstrike with them even though the cryptek dosnt have the deep strike ability?

I think you can actually. A cryptek counts as a squad upgrade, so he should recieve the squad's special rules.

This has been asked alot...

There is no definate answer as the cyptek is NOT a part of the squad and is added at deployment rather then bought with the unit.

As the rules don't cover a character (its not an IC) and the USR refer to IC's joining units its not clear cut.

Unless there is something that specifically mentions that the added models gain the specific rules (such as Snikrot's Ambush), then no, they may not deepstrike.

Just as a unit moves at the speed of the slowest model, it deploys in similar fashion. If one model in the unit does not have the capacity to move/deploy in a certain fashion, then the entire unit may not move/deploy in that fashion until the offending model is removed from the unit.

And yet the precedent set by space wolf wolfguard joining wolf scouts who deploy via OBEL and gaining this rule means the FAQ could go in favour of yes the cryptek can deep strike

*sigh* This is the third time I've been in this specific argument.

The BGB FAQ specifically states that a unit may NOT deep strike unless all MODELS possess the deep strike ability.

However, the Crypteks DO benefit from the Hunters From Hyperspace rule, since like all other unit abilities, it does get conveyed to any model that joins the unit.

And the Cryptek DOES join the unit, it says so in the Royal Court summary page.

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At this point there really should be no debate to any of these points, as they are very clearly written in the codex. It has been my experience that everyone in disagreement always seems to fall back to the position of "I don't like the fact that this unit is actually good, so I think that it's just a typo."

Massaen wrote:And yet the precedent set by space wolf wolfguard joining wolf scouts who deploy via OBEL and gaining this rule means the FAQ could go in favour of yes the cryptek can deep strike.

Actually the Space Wolf FAQ in conjunction with the Main Rulebook FAQ that says that all models in a unit must have the Deep Strike rules in order for the unit to deep strike makes it clear that the unit can NOT deep strike.

Ghaz is correct on this one, although the Space Wolves codex has nothing to do with it. The entire answer is found in the BGB FAQ.

The SW FAQ only clarified exactly *which* rules and which rules *only* the WG benefit from. None of the listed rules are DS, so this backs up the BRB FAQ, it does not contradict it

Q: Can a unit Deep Strike if only some of the models in
it have the deep strike special rule? (p95)
A: No.

That's quite final, not even the SW FAQ changes anything about this. Nos is right.

I didn't realize there was even an argument here.