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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 06:11:42
Subject: Lord of the Storm vs Disruption Pods
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Slippery Scout Biker
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Would a Tau vehicle equipped with a Disruption pod be allowed to make a D-Pod save vs. the lightning attack from Lord of the Storm if Imotekh was further than 12 inches away?
I would think that you would because the Lord of the Storm rule does not say that cover or armor saves are not allowed. What say you?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 06:23:48
Subject: Lord of the Storm vs Disruption Pods
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Lieutenant General
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Where does it say that the lightning from Imotekh's Lord of the Storm special rule originates from him? It doesn't. There is no range. It's simply an automatic hit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 06:37:29
Subject: Re:Lord of the Storm vs Disruption Pods
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Slippery Scout Biker
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Would it not have to orignate from him as it is his special rule? He is the unit that allows the special rule to be played...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 06:53:16
Subject: Lord of the Storm vs Disruption Pods
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Sorry but no - While you need him to get the rule he has no bearing on when or how the effects take place - you could kill him turn 1 and the lightning will keep coming.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 07:03:35
Subject: Re:Lord of the Storm vs Disruption Pods
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Slippery Scout Biker
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Yea I've been reading some of the other post about it. I dont think there is another rule like it that I can think of... I will just wait for the FAQ.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 08:52:59
Subject: Re:Lord of the Storm vs Disruption Pods
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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I'm in the camp that says the Lord of the Storm rule belongs to Imotekh (and I am also confused as to how anyone thinks otherwise, given the page of the codex where you can find the rule) and therefor, if you kill Imotekh then the lightning is finished. That being said, as the effect does not require LOS from Imotekh, I believe the range of the lightning strike is ambiguous, however I would allow the disruption pods to take the hit. If they can take the hit from a Lascannon, then they should be able to take the hit from a lightning bolt.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 09:59:21
Subject: Lord of the Storm vs Disruption Pods
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Screaming Shining Spear
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If they can take a lascannon or not is not relevant... what is relevant is that the shot comes from more than 12" away in the case of disruption pods.
As you do not measure range or roll to hit (you simply take 1d6 hits) then the pods requirments are not met.
As for the lightning - it specifies any army that includes the stormlord so i can kinda see what you mean... but the fact remains my army still contains imotek (he is in the list) regardless of his exisitance on the table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 13:33:26
Subject: Lord of the Storm vs Disruption Pods
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Imotekh is NOT the "source" of the storm, it has no range and just does hits. Imotekh, according to the actual codex rules, is not even required to be alive and you will STILL be hit by the lightning
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 14:46:22
Subject: Re:Lord of the Storm vs Disruption Pods
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Plaguelord Titan Princeps of Nurgle
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azazel the cat wrote:I'm in the camp that says the Lord of the Storm rule belongs to Imotekh (and I am also confused as to how anyone thinks otherwise, given the page of the codex where you can find the rule) and therefor, if you kill Imotekh then the lightning is finished. That being said, as the effect does not require LOS from Imotekh, I believe the range of the lightning strike is ambiguous, however I would allow the disruption pods to take the hit. If they can take the hit from a Lascannon, then they should be able to take the hit from a lightning bolt.
So, if you hold Imotekh in reserve, then his Night Fighting never starts (because he's not on the board turn 1, when the ability would begin) and therefore, the power is wasted because you can't continue something that doesn't start?
Seems a little counter-intuitive, don't you think?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/30 05:25:03
Subject: Re:Lord of the Storm vs Disruption Pods
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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And if Orikan is not on the table when the Stars Are Right, it doesn't work, either. You also can't shoot while you're in reserve. Same idea.
Anyway, I don't want to derail this particular thread with the same circular Imotekh argument, so I'll move this back on track:
@Massaen: I see your point. RAI I would allow the disruption pods, but according to RAW you would appear to be correct in that the requirements to use the pods are not met, so I guess that you cannot use the pods against the lightning strikes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/30 05:37:39
Subject: Lord of the Storm vs Disruption Pods
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The Lightning happens if Imotekh is on the board or not. He only needs to be included in your army.
It's quite plain in the Codex. "If your army includes Imotekh the Stormlord...".
Anything else is RAYHAW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/30 10:39:53
Subject: Lord of the Storm vs Disruption Pods
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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As above.
THere is NO way to read the Stormlords ability as requiring him to be alive, or on the board, and the range isnt from him at all - there is NO range for the lightning strikes.
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