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So okay, I wanted to make a 1,5k list with Marneus Calgar, and decided to go look at one of the sample GW has on its website as a starting point. How would you change the following army list to make it competitive? :

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=400028&pIndex=1&aId=13600009a&multiPageMode=true&start=2

HQ
Marneus Calgar
Armour of Antilochus
265 points

4 Honour Guard with Chapter banner and Chapter Champion with combat blade, mounted in a Drop Pod.
210 points

3 Honour Guard with Chapter Champion with combat blade, mounted in a Drop Pod.
150 points

3 Honour Guard with Chapter Champion with combat blade, mounted in a Drop Pod.
150 points

ELITES
Terminator Squad
5 Terminators with heavy flamer and Terminator Sergeant.
205 points

TROOPS
Tactical Squad
10 Space Marines with flamer, missile launcher and Sergeant with melta bombs, mounted in a Drop Pod.
210 points

Tactical Squad
10 Space Marines with flamer, missile launcher and Sergeant with melta bombs, mounted in a Drop Pod.
210 points

Scout Squad
5 Scouts with heavy bolter and Scout Sergeant with teleport homer.
100 points

Total: 1500 points

Since I'm new to C SM, I don't really know what I need to change to make it work :S Any suggestions?

Calgar imo is for 2k+ points games, but i like this list it looks like a lot of fun to play.

i would however drop the 2x3 man honor guards and drop pods and you get 300 points.
this should be used on some heavy support. mounting missile launchers in drop pods mean that when you land you have to wait a turn before you can shoot it assuming that you dont get counter assaulted first, something to consider.

if you roll dawn of war i think this list will hurt you aswell, consider rhinos ahead of drop pods in some cases maybe.

crucially though dropping the 2 3man squads and drop pods you get 300 points straight away use them wisley

may the rolls be with you!

Yeah... I am a huge fan of Calgar, but I really don't like running him "competitively" at anything less than 1850. It does look like a great fun list though. I have to warn you though, that Honorguard tend to struggle in the current meta, simply because there are so many PWs floating around... many of them at I5 or I6 (Nipplewing and/or GKs).

To strengthen it, I really think you need some sort of melta support. At the minimum, switch out the meltabombs/flamers for regular meltaguns. That way you can pop transports to allow your Honorguard to get to the juicy bits. I'd probably switch the MLs for MMs too, simply because you are going to be most likely drop podding in close anyway. The Scouts might be better off with a ML instead of the HB, just to help pop armor or knock off MCs (which are going to shred you).

The problem is I would like to drop one of the Honorguard squads to beef up the other two (Chapter Champs need Relic blades IMO), buy a CML for the Termies, get combi-weapons, etc--but then you would only have four drop pods for drop pod assault. If you could find 25 points (aka drop the banner), you could pick up the CML for the Termies. However, you might be better off just changing them out for TH/SS Termies. They will help you handle harder problems such as MCs or Walkers that will shred your Honorguard if you aren't careful.

Hope this helps and definately post how it goes! I love me some Honorguard!

I think Calgar is just a little expensive, above 2000pts maybe you can afford the points. He is god like.

I can only excuse one honour guard. From my experience you have to use them like a weak version of assault termies.

I think to drop pod I would use a force dome librarian to keep them alive.
I think combimelta, melta is needed in the drop pods. Also go for some long range weapons just in case you are outmanoeuvred.

Otherwise
landraider+honour guard
3 rhinos, tac squads, melta, combimelta, ML
To get them into play.

Hi
I don't know if this is what you want, but I would:

Hq
Replace Marneus with Vulcan

Elite
Replace honor guards with 2xsternguards, still in pods,
with as many meltas you can afford.

Replace shooty termies with cc termies, run them with Vulcan, maybe add 1 or 2 if you have the points.

Troops
Replace flamer and missile launcher with melta and multimelta.replace droppod with rhinos.

If there still is 135p available, add 1 thunderfire cannon with droppod.( pod to get in both elites first round.)

You can also replace the sternguards for ironclas with melta/ flamer, still i pods.

Best regards
Robin


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