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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/03 04:14:38
Subject: 1850pts Battle wagon rush list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So upcoming tournament this is the list im thinking of taking.
Hq
Ghaz
225
Big mek KFF
90
Troops
19 shootas nob pk bp
160pts
17shootas big shoota, nob pk bp
153pts
18 shoota bigh shoota, nob pk bp
159pts
6 Nob Bikerz All Cheezed out Cb
463pts
Elites
Lootas x8
120pts
Lootas x8
120pts
Heavy support
Battlewagon
Deffrolla redpaint job,big shootas
120pts
Battlewagon
Deffrolla redpaint job,big shootas
120pts
Battlewagon
Deffrolla redpaint job,big shootas
120pts
I figure this list has multiple threats if you shoot at the wagon the nob bikerz are gonna chew you to piecez you focus the bikers the wagon gonna move right up too you. What you think let me know.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/03 05:49:54
Subject: 1850pts Battle wagon rush list
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Great list. I like it a lot.
You've got an average of 77 points per Nob Biker. What is the load out on them? I have to say I have been leaning away from Nob Bikers in Tournament play because of Gray Knights, but I still love them.
Armoured Plates and Grot Riggers on the BWs not carrying the Big Mek are essential to keep them rolling. Every little bit helps. Sucks to be glanced into Immobilization or Stunned by a lucky S4 shot on your rear armour.
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I don't write the rules. My ego just lives and dies by them one model at a time. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/03 06:24:33
Subject: Re:1850pts Battle wagon rush list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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yeah grey knights are brutal on nob bikers the layout is
PK Wagghbanner
Shorcha combi
Cb
PK Boss pole
Shorcha combi
PAinboy grot orderly
PK Shorcha combi
BC Shorcha combi
Bc
all have cyborg Bodies and different gear for wounds.
Also trying to see what to get rid of for 30 points for armour plates on all 3.
I just cant think of how to spend the points else way without have to buy alot of models straped on cash. hum i have 5 regualr nobs all geared out also, Mega nobs are too expensive to buy each 20 bucks a pop.
I have 10 burna boyz but no good way to transport them unless i swap out 20 boyz for them but still 500 approx is alot to fill lol if i take the nob bikerz out. Or Take a few trukks with those points is what i can think of.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/03 06:56:35
Subject: 1850pts Battle wagon rush list
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Just for trimming points, you don't really need 4 Combi-schorchas. Twin Linked Dakkagunz are pretty reliable and are S5 as well. You also don't need 3 PKs in a 6 Nob unit.
Painboy, grot orderly
PK, Boss Pole, Slugga
PK, Waaagh! Banner, Slugga
Choppa, Kombi-Shorcha
BC, Slugga
Choppa, Slugga
I just cut off 45 points.
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I don't write the rules. My ego just lives and dies by them one model at a time. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/03 22:37:59
Subject: Re:1850pts Battle wagon rush list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hum what could i replace the nob bikers with hummm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/03 22:51:35
Subject: Re:1850pts Battle wagon rush list
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
Sitting in yo' bath tub, poopin out shoggoths
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Mrstealthrttt wrote:Hum what could i replace the nob bikers with hummm.
Boyz before toys..........
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750 points
1000 Points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/03 22:59:50
Subject: 1850pts Battle wagon rush list
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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You need to add Grot Riggers and Armor Plates in order to keep your Wagons moving.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/04 00:20:41
Subject: 1850pts Battle wagon rush list
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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HQ: 2
Ghazgkhull 225
Big Mek, KFF 85
Elites: 2
2X9 Lootas 270
Troops: 4
18 Slugga Boyz, Nob, Bosspole, 'Eavy Armour, Big Shoota, PK 164
2X17 Slugga Boyz, Nob, Bosspole, 'Eavy Armour, Big Shoota, PK 316
11 Slugga Boyz, Nob, Bosspole, 'Eavy Armour, Big Shoota, PK 244
Trukk, Big Shoota, Red Paint, Ram 45
Fast Attack: 3
3X Deffkoptas, Twin Linked Rokkits, Buzzsaws 210
Heavy Support: 3
2X Battlewagons, Deff Rolla, Red Paint, Armour Plates, Grot Riggers, Boarding Plank, Big Shoota 280
Big Mek's Battlewagon, Deff Rolla, Red Paint, Armour Plates, Boarding Plank, Big Shoota 135
1847 points. Big Mek in BW without Grot Riggers with the 19 Mob. Ghazgkhull in another with one of the 18 Mobz. Left enough room in the other BW for Ghaz or Big Mek to jump into if something happens to one of their BWs. Trukk Mob to rushe ahead, hide behind or block LOS to BW Side Armour, or reserve for late game objective grabbing.
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I don't write the rules. My ego just lives and dies by them one model at a time. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/04 05:57:49
Subject: Re:1850pts Battle wagon rush list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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aYou beat me to it i had redone my list and it came out basically the same All i have to do is buy a Trukk and some boyz and my list is set. I was boarder line on how to gear the deffkoptas now should i reserve them or scout them turbo boost? Althought i prefer shoota boyz feel they are better cause of the flexiblity of being able to shoot while in the wagons.
Also i got like 1806 when i added that list up
MY list is
Ghaz
228pts
-Ammo runt
Big mek
90pts
-grot oiler
Troops
19 shootas, Big shoota, nob, pk,bp, "eavy armour 164pts
18 shootas, Big shoota, nob, pk,bp, "eavy armour 158pts
18 shootas, Big shoota, nob, pk,bp, "eavy armour 158
12 Slugga, Nob, pk,bp 112pts
Trukk Red paint, Ram45pts
8 lootas 120pts
10 lootas 150pts
3 Deffkopta
TL rokkit
Buzzsaw
210pts
Heavy Support
-Battle wagon
deffrolla, red paint job, armour plates, boarding plank, big shoota, 135pts Big mek ride
-Battle wagon
deffrolla, red paint job, Grot riggers, armour plates, boarding plank, big shoota 140pts Ghaz ride
-Battle wagon
deffrolla, red paint job, Grot riggers, armour plates, boarding plank, big shoota,140pts Ghazz spare
That puts me at 1850pts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/04 06:13:57
Subject: 1850pts Battle wagon rush list
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Do y'all prefer sluggas to shootas for the extra close combat attack? Automatically Appended Next Post: oh and is Ghaz reeaaaally worth it?
Sorry for the hijack. This list looks better than the one including the biker cheese nobs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/04 06:22:13
Subject: Re:1850pts Battle wagon rush list
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Happy We Found Our Primarch
WV, USA
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I've found that Ghaz with 15 burna boyz makes for one scary ass battle wagon, just a thought.
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S.o.B. - 2500+ - 5000+ 5,000
GK: W-L-D 17-3-2 SoB: W-L-D 0-0-1 SM: TBD
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/04 06:25:20
Subject: Re:1850pts Battle wagon rush list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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shootas are better in my opion All the extra shooting they get makes them better at more then 1 thing 18inch allows you to poosibliy get 2 rounds of shooting off then assault.
soo,
30 mob strong
60 shots
20 hit
10 wound
3.3 marines dead
another round of shooting.
=6.6 marines dead
Assault
90 attacks
45 hits
22 wounds
aprox 7.3 marines dead =
14 dead
Slugas
30 shots
10 hits
5 wounds
1.8 dead
120 attacks
60 hits
30 wounds
10 dead
so around 12 dead.
Even if you dont get the extra round of shots with the shootas, still approx 12 dead so you get the added bonus of longer shooting range and more shots. Automatically Appended Next Post: @ ele-boom but then that Battlewagon becomes A huge target and threat and Ghaz no Like to walk.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/04 07:14:15
Subject: 1850pts Battle wagon rush list
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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doktor_g wrote:Do y'all prefer sluggas to shootas for the extra close combat attack?
Automatically Appended Next Post:
oh and is Ghaz reeaaaally worth it?
Sorry for the hijack. This list looks better than the one including the biker cheese nobs.
Ghaz is ALWAYS worth it
I usually don't take him in anything under 2000 points though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/04 07:28:36
Subject: 1850pts Battle wagon rush list
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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The deployment of your Deffkoptas is purely circumstantial. It all depends on deployment, the army you are facing, and who has won the initiative. Dawn of War or going second, I Outflank with them about 50% of the time. Going first, I definitely Scout. Remember, this happens before your opponent's attempt to seize the initiative. You will just have to burn a few to see how to get the most sparks.
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I don't write the rules. My ego just lives and dies by them one model at a time. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/06 03:55:37
Subject: Re:1850pts Battle wagon rush list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/08 04:55:45
Subject: 1850pts Battle wagon rush list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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just played a game everything did well expect the deffkopta seem like a big point sink as the just almost alwas die turn 1 thats 210 points i ma think to replace them
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