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I was interested in playing a more realistic miniatures game, and my FLGS had FOW. Plus I am interested in history/ww2 What about you guys?

It's not as broken as 40K, I love the miniatures and the group that plays at our store is not as competitive (in a good way).

I got into it for the ww2 aspect,Also i finally got tired of 40k.The GW high prices and the way they treat their customers theese days.So far i have been totally happy with Battle front.

My WH40K figures sat unpainted for a while as I found other games (Warmachine and Dark Age) that made me inspired to paint more. After I sold my armies, I needed somewhere to redirect the money. After a marathon of episodes from History Channels Greatest Tank Battles, I found my new game.

I always found FOW to be a fascinating game as I loved the tiny tanks. The infantry discouraged me from fully diving into the game in the past but my painting skill have improved and I no longer found the smaller infantry to be intimidating.

I love smaller forces so I went for the more expensive German Tank Army. I have yet to get my order of models but having already recieved my Grey Wolf book, I am reading up on forces and army builds.

Our 40k scene dried up one summer and I had a couple hundred with nothing better to do. Now I have complete US armor and FJ companies. Buckets of fun.

its nice to have a variety of games avaliable to play. between everything I have 40k, Fantesy, Flames of War, Battlefleet Gothic, and Munchkin as options on gaming night.

FOW

realistic rules
balanced rules
tons of historic units to pick from
nice sculpts depicting the units
fast to paint

LunaHound wrote:FOW

realistic rules
balanced rules
tons of historic units to pick from
nice sculpts depicting the units
fast to paint

Ditto. Plus, there are plenty of other 15mm WWII miniatures to chose from, just in case Battlefront decides to emulate GW in more negative ways.

LunaHound wrote:
realistic rules

Yes, because its completely realistic to have 2 platoons of Grenadiers backed up by 5 King Tigers and a small mortar platoon.

Grey Templar wrote:

LunaHound wrote:
realistic rules

Yes, because its completely realistic to have 2 platoons of Grenadiers backed up by 5 King Tigers and a small mortar platoon.

Samething can be said about the amount of dreads being field in 40k when fluff says they are rare and few per chapter.

Annnd its a game, made to be a game. Not historical reenactment.

LunaHound wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:

LunaHound wrote:
realistic rules

Yes, because its completely realistic to have 2 platoons of Grenadiers backed up by 5 King Tigers and a small mortar platoon.

Samething can be said about the amount of dreads being field in 40k when fluff says they are rare and few per chapter.

Annnd its a game, made to be a game. Not historical reenactment.

Yeah for that you want Force on Force

Can't say I have played FOW, ive read the rules but it looks interesting in it's own way. Atleast it's a good way to get people into historicals. We arn't all of bunch of old men who 'bitch when someone paints the cuffs the wrong colour on there little figgies'.

The rules encouraged the use of terrain, instead of it being a nuisance. Most other games you only use terrain out of necessity, usually limited to bits of cover.

In FoW, because of the scale and rules, you really want to put down terrain, and rules actually say and show you how to place down a realistic layout that's also playable.

Also, pre-measuring anytime anywhere. I got tired of guessing ranges in all my other games. I also think guessing ranges is one of the biggest barriers to entry for most gamers, taking that out of the equation helps open things up just as much as some might think it limits a miniatures game.

40k is great, but its fantasy. Flames of War is remarkable because some of he feats of arms were incredible and true, Wittmann's Tigers Marsch, or Arnhem.

I was further inspired by family members I have lost (1 at sea, 1 at arnhem and 1 captured on d-day), in the past in those battles. Hence my interest in D-day, my Great Uncle was captured in a crashed Glider (in a canal!) 6 miles south of Merville Battery. His D-day Story went like this "Trained for months, got in Glider, crashed in canal, half of unit drowned, got captured, spent the last 8 months of the war being marched around Germany as one of he last prisoners, starved halfway to death, crapping my pants thinking when am I going to be executed, saved by a Russian Guard Unit in Eastern Germany, sent back to Uk Demobbed, good luck with the rest of your life" I mean what a story? It actually happened, this isn't some fantasy universe.

Flames of War does start to give the scope and size of the Second World War justice, and I enjoy and got into it for this reason.

Makarov wrote:I was interested in playing a more realistic miniatures game, and my FLGS has FOW. What about you guys?

I've been looking for a good WWII game for decades that wasn't full of so many fiddley little rules that it gave me headaches like ASL used to do after a while. It had a historical aspect, but didn't force the complete historical accuracy down your throat or make the game unplayable because of that either. FoW fit the bill and I haven't looked back. I have thousands upon thousands of points of british forces from EW through LW. I also really appreciate that the rules are well written and not so open ended to interpretation like GW rules tend to be. If enough battlefront players complain about a problem in a new book it is often addressed, like the the recent issues with the EW Britash Armored Regiment in the Blitzkrieg book. I think they "fixed" that one a little too far, but they did provide free decal pages to put into the Blitzkrieg and Hellfire and Back books to address the point changes so you didn't have to keep extra pieces of paper stuck in the pages to keep the point costs handy. Keeps the books looking professional and also makes the customers very happy.

Add on top of that things like the fact that anyone who currently owns the 2nd edition Hardback main Rulebook can get a free copy of the new rulebook in softbound format and you only need to buy the new rulebook if you want the full sized book. You'll NEVER see GW doing something like that these days.

The funny thing for me is that I have a friend who has also been looking for a game like this almost as long as myself. He is the one who found it, convinced me we needed to get into it. I bought minis and started playing it and he hasn't bought a thing...:\ Makes me want to smack him. Luckily my FLGS has regular FoW leagues through the year. EW escalation last year and we are getting ready to start an EW North Africa campaign based league where all that matters is your own record in the battles you fight, but your army could completely change from battle to battle based on historical representation. Heck you could easily find yourself playing on the other side too with someone else's minis as well. Should be interesting, though need to nail down a bit more detail to keep us from having to bring ALL of our appropriate minis every week to find out what type of battles will need to be setup.

I also did not get into things like napoleonics for the main reason I don't like warhammer fantasy battle: I can't stand moving around those big blocks of troops all as one. Annoyings the heck out of me. I used to game british colonials, more specifically darkest africa settings for a while, but finding opponents locally was not easy. FoW is much more mainstream than any other historicals ruleset I have played.

Skriker

Because I love WW II stuff and it's a lot simpler game to play than say 40k.

Becuse I am completely sold on WW2 and wanted a cheaper game then WHFB and WH40k, plus i love the thought of throwing the loyal frontoviks of the red army at the enemy and see what happens ;D

bored of everything GW, saw Flames of War and loved it from the get go, and now that I work just got myself some Soviets and the brother some Germans, now to build a massive set of infantry and tanks lol

I was collecting 15mm WWII prior to the existence of Flames of War and when it came along it was a quick, well written (by the standards of historical rules of the time) and fun game.

I still play other WWII rules but if I am playing at the club or running a game at a con FOW is usually my first choice