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hey guys ive started collecting imperial guard recently ive based it on the helghast from the killzone series ive read the imperial guard codex cover to cover and no matter how much i go through it valkyries just jump out at me now heres my list any suggestions are welcome

HQ- CCS with 4 plasmas creed and astropath

Troops-Vet Squad with meltas demolitions and lucas bastonne
Troops-Vet squad with Plasmas forward sentries
Troops-Vet squad with plasmas foward sentries

Elites-Ratlings X7
Elites-Stormtroopers X7 with meltas
Elites-StormtroopersX7 with meltas

Fast Attack-Vendetta with heavy bolters
Fast Attack-Vendetta with heavy bolters
Fast Attack-Vendetta with heavy bolters

ok i haven't tried this yet but my plan would be basically sledgehammer infiltrate the stormtroopers and ratlings then use the scout movement of the valkyries and creed to get the rest of my army up the table to support my infiltrators then just smash everything in the area melta's to destroy armour and transports plasma vets CCS and ratlings mop up troops and valks take care of any threats out of range of my troopers then set up a gunline in cover to resist the enemies counter attack hopefully any enemy troops who survive are hopefully footsloogers meaning there going to have to withstand a hail of fire combined with creeds orders will hopefully destroy the remains then simply load up the valks and fly off and repeat

any ideas or improvements are welcome
Thanks
Mal

Hello again!
First, I'd drop Creed!! I'd only use him in anything 1850-2000.
My opinion on Vets are:
1 - 3 Plasma/Melta.
2 - put in Chimera.
3 - No upgrades. Bastonne, Demolitions & forward sentries.

I know you're wanting to go "Aircav". since you are going with a theme it nixes the chimera.

I feel using 5 Stormies at most as a suicide Melta/Plasma DSing threat is the best use.

Ratlings (snipers in general) are points that could be spent on better items.

Well, I would actually drop Creed to, but not because of the points level. I would drop him because you can't give Orders to units in vehicles or out of them. I would not use Creed unless you have 4+ units to give Orders to. If your only using him for Tactical Geinus, I feel it is a waste.

Instead of Bastonne, use Harker. Now you can Infiltrate or Outflank him. I like Demolitions on Harker's Vets, 3x Plasma and a second HB.

Drop the STs down to 5 man squads. Two extra guys will not make them any more survivable. Switch out the Ratlings for another squad of melta or plasma STs.

If your Vets are in the Vendettas, switch Sentries for Demolitions if your gonna pack a Doctrine.

Normally I would say drop the HBs from the Vendettas. If you don't have a better way to spend the points, keep them. Otherwise their may be better things to use those points on.

If your running out of ways to spend your points (since you seem to be doing a Outflank list), there is Al Ra'hem and a outflanking power blob and PCS.

The list is weak.

Drop all the junk: doctrines, special characters,ratlings, heavy bolters. Do 3 min stormie squads. Meltas on your CCS and vets, plasma on your stormies. With the astropath this comes in at 1125. I suggest 6 chimeras. 15 points to spare.

That is all.

cheers guys id like to keep creed i didn't explain he'd be in a chimera so id use the scout movement on him and i dont intend my veterens to be inside the valks for long so i can maximise the orders usage i think ill knock the ST down to 2 5 man squads. And bastonne seems pointless if i have creed also the ratlings can go what would you suggest i do with the remaining points i have access to basilisks and a leman russ anything else and ill have to pay a visit to GW

Well, you need to make sure everything in your list is posted. You do not have a Chimera listed anywhere on that first list. Your not allowed to list equipment points, but you can list the total cost of a unit. This will help us help you.

When I see 'air cav' lists, I don't think 'Chimeras', I think of reserve heavy/DSers, everyone in a Vendetta/Valkyrie 'air cav'.

Since I don't read the 40k books because half of the ones I did read where god aweful, I can't help you stay true to your 'fluff'. I find it hard to help people make fluff lists because most 'fluff' does not equal 'competitive'.

I hate to say this, but you may have to pay a visit to GW or play smaller point games to do what you want to do with what you have.

ok mate what would you suggest and can you make me an exaple of what you would include in an aircav list

CCS - 140
4 plas
Astropath

Plasma vets x 2 - 230
3 plasma

Melta vets x 3 - 300

Stormtroopers -105
2 melta

Stormtroopers - 105
2 melta

Vendetta x 2 - 260

Vendetta x 2 - 260

Valkyrie x 2 - 260
MRP

Comes to 1660. if you want to go up or down, just edit.
I think this is what BlkTom meant.

If you do something similar with Chimeras instead of Vendettas/Valks, you can do
more because each Chimera is a base 55 pts as opposed to a base 130(mol). IMHO.

I think this is what BlkTom meant.

Yup. I would conside that a 'Air Cav' List.