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Company Command Squad 215
Creed
Medic
3x Plasma Gun

Chimera 100
Storm Bolter
Hunter Killer
Dozer Blade
Extra Armour

Veteran Squad 1 155
Harker
Shotguns
3x Melta

Chimera 100
Storm Bolter
Hunter Killer
Dozer Blade
Extra Armour

Veteran Squad 2 165
Power Weapon
Plasma Pistol
3x Plasma Gun
Grenadiers

Chimera 100
Storm Bolter
Hunter Killer
Dozer Blade
Extra Armour

Veteran Squad 3 150
Power Weapon
Plasma Pistol
3x Melta
Grenadies

Chimera 100
Storm Bolter
Hunter Killer
Dozer Blade
Extra Armour

Hell Hound 130 150
Dozer Blade
Extra Armour
Heavy Flamer

Hell Hound 150
Dozer Blade
Extra Armour
Heavy Flamer

Leman Russ Punisher 280
Heavy Bolter Sponsons
Pask
Extra Armour
Lascannon

Leman Russ Vanquisher 205
Heavy Bolter Sponsons
Lascannon
Extra Armour

Hydra Flak Tank 100
Extra Armour
Dozer Blade

Figured i'd show you guys the list i run for my Praetorians at 2k. The army is going for the Desert Rats feel. Pask is "Monty" etc. Plays like you're run of the mill mech guard. Comments critiques? Points wasted/ points well spent?

There is a lot of wasted points here.

Creed is doing nothing for the list, absolutely nothing. The medic is equally overpriced for doing very little. Harker in a chimera isn't terrible, but I personally feel he's a bit of a waste and the points are better off elsewhere.

Veterans shouldn't have any close combat upgrades, so drop the power swords. Doctrines in general are overpriced, and Grenadiers is especially so. A 4+ armour save isn't even that great and you'll still die to a stiff breeze.

Drop EVERY upgrade off your chimeras and hellhounds. That alone saves you 220pts in largely useless upgrades. Drop the russes extra armour, saving you another 30pts.

The vanquisher and the punisher are together probably the two worst russ variants, and Pask isn't great either; he just makes the tank a more expensive poor tank. I would highly recommend using either a vanilla, demolisher, or executioner with no further upgrades.

If you drop all the vehicle upgrades, Creed, Harker, Pask, doctrines, power swords and the medic, you'll have 555pts to add stuff with. That's a huge difference, and you didn't even lose any real hitting power or units in the process.

Bolly.Bolly?BOLLY! wrote:Company Command Squad 215
Creed Creed's orders will be largely wasted on this list unless your guys jump out of their chimeras early, but then it wouldn't be Mech IG
Medic maybe drop the medic and add a chimera and 4th plasma
3x Plasma Gun

Chimera 100
Storm Bolter I like the extra shot and foot of range on the HStubber
Hunter Killer Hunter Killers at BS3 feels risky to me
Dozer Blade I suppose it depends on your usual play area, but I skip Dozers
Extra Armour I have heard many IG and Guard players swear by their Extra Armour. I am not one of them

Veteran Squad 1 155
Harker I like Harker, he doesn't fit perfectly with an IG Mech list, but he's a fun threat
Shotguns
3x Melta

Chimera 100
Storm Bolter
Hunter Killer
Dozer Blade
Extra Armour

Veteran Squad 2 165
Power Weapon I'd pass
Plasma Pistol I'd pass
3x Plasma Gun
Grenadiers Not really needed in a chimera

Chimera 100
Storm Bolter
Hunter Killer
Dozer Blade
Extra Armour

Veteran Squad 3 150
Power Weapon
Plasma Pistol
3x Melta
Grenadies

Chimera 100
Storm Bolter
Hunter Killer
Dozer Blade
Extra Armour

Hell Hound 130 150
Dozer Blade
Extra Armour
Heavy Flamer Multi-melta will give you more targets. Remember, can't fire both flamers if you move 12"

Hell Hound 150
Dozer Blade
Extra Armour
Heavy Flamer

Leman Russ Punisher 280 hehehe, I would cut both Russ Variants for some LRBTs but I think you should keep the Pask Punisher. It make a nice centerpiece for the army and adds a lot of flavor
Heavy Bolter Sponsons
Pask
Extra Armour
Lascannon

Leman Russ Vanquisher 205 maybe a medusa with bastion breachers? maybe some vendettas
Heavy Bolter Sponsons
Lascannon
Extra Armour

Hydra Flak Tank 100
Extra Armour I like the idea of 2 squads of 2 hydras here, or maybe 2 hydras and a manticore
Dozer Blade

Figured i'd show you guys the list i run for my Praetorians at 2k. The army is going for the Desert Rats feel. Pask is "Monty" etc. Plays like you're run of the mill mech guard. Comments critiques? Points wasted/ points well spent?

In general, cut most of the non-weapon upgrades on your squads and vehicles, add some more firepower. At 2000 points, your opponents should look at your list, cry a little, and just accept that whatever their best units are, they won't live long.

Really appreciate it guys. I am one of the swear by extra armor guys mortal. Since my Punisher and Pask are already built i probably won't change him out. Definatley dropping Grenadiers and Creed. I'm keeping the medic because i have bad luck with over heat rolls and he's saved many a guardsman. Thanks for the critiques guys. I'll try to get a fixed list up tomorrow.

You don't suffer from get's hot if your in the transport. so that 30 points is wasted. and if the chimera does get blown up there nor going to let them live.

ninja13 wrote:You don't suffer from get's hot if your in the transport. so that 30 points is wasted. and if the chimera does get blown up there nor going to let them live.

I thought the rule was a plasma weapon ON a vehicle did not use get's hot, but a plasma weapon on a guy, IN a vehicle still does. I lost a vet yesterday to this.

Yeah i've never heard of men in transports ignoring gets hot

None of the guys at my club play like that we presumed if it did get het then he'd just simply drop the gun and duck back in the tank or something.

Your wrong Ninja, and your friends are playing it wrong., You assumed, and you know what assuming means...

Well, I've never come across a mech list in a tourney yet( well I have not guard ones) Well off topic My guard got smashed in the tourney this weekend. You were right bik tom, My scatter dice never scatters in friendly games and at the tournament it have about 4 direst hits out of 5 games. and I had 3 big blast templates a turn. To the op don't really on basilisks, I have just learnt that.