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Codex space marine for in-your-face killing. Taking on Razorback LasPlas spammer, stupid Necron scarab controlling thingy and Blood Angel whatcha magic FNP.

Left flank:
Calgar
10 Honour Guard - Champion w/ Thunderhammer - Chapter Banner.
Techmarine w/ power weapon + servo harness
LR Redeemer w/ Chronus + Multi-melta

Right flank:
Librarian - Null Zone + Avenger
5 TH/SS Termies
Techmarine w/ power weapon + servo harness
LR Redeemer w/ extra armour + Multi-melta

Camping
Scout Squad 5x snipers + camo cloak + melta-bomb
Scout Squad 4x snipers + Telion
Landspeeder Storm

It is pretty simple: they can try to deal with my scout squad which are ALL 2+ cover save (going to ground FTW). I will deploy Telion squad inside of the Landspeeder Storm WHILE sitting on terrain. Yeah yeah dangerous terrain whatever but this protects him from flamers.

I will deploy each land raider on one flank. Nobody will last when my units assault. Not even Mephiston. Against monstrous creature, the thunder hammers will put them to short works.

I negate stupid stuff such as fear of darkness, mindworm, losing combat or necron scarab. I don't worry about pinning.. My Land Raider cannot be stunned. Techmarine can repair from inside any destroyed weapon or immobilized on a 4+. On charging techmarine has 2 power attacks and 2 power fist attacks.

Against Grey knights, my hood is measured from the hull. I can ram lasplas razorback for lunch and then eat everything inside.

UPDATE:
Actually scarab control cannot be blocked since it is a Leadership test and not a Morale test.

Am I hallucinating or what?

Well, two LR pattern tanks can go down early in larger pt games. Then your precious passengers have to take a walk giving the enemy time to decimate them.

At 2000 pts, most people have 4 melta + 4 las.

Las need 3 and 6 to stop me from moving.
Melta needs 3 and 6 then 6 to stop me from moving. Or 3 and 7 then 4 to stop me from moving.

From all my 2k games so far, land raiders always deliver.

Well, yes I think you're crazy! First, there's a lot of stuff I don't get in the list or that I think are not worth it - Chronus (???), power weapon on the Techmarines (a combi-melta would serve you bette I think) and no Terminator armor on Calgar???

Aside from that, it's a funny Heroehammer list, just not sure if it is as good as you think. Try it out and tell us how it fared!

I think I will give it a try by proxying some models. Just for the fun of it. I will update this thread with the battle report.

First one fluff cratique, I think the word you want is pincer not pincher.

One weakness I see is no long range anti tank. As a result your enemy will be able to get what he wants where he wants which is problematic as your cc units are good but not elite cc units that can take on anything

I don't need long-range anti tank since the LR have twin-linked assault cannon that hits on 2 and rending. At a bit closer range, I can shoot my multi-melta which hits on 2 and melta rule tanks to death.

For armour 11 stuff, I just ram then unload and shoot.

Thank you for correcting my typo.

Pony_law wrote:First one fluff cratique, I think the word you want is pincer not pincher.

One weakness I see is no long range anti tank. As a result your enemy will be able to get what he wants where he wants which is problematic as your cc units are good but not elite cc units that can take on anything

And "critique" would be the word you're looking for...

I have to disagree with you on the effectiveness of his CC units. TH/SS Termies are a tried and true unit, I don't think there's any argument there. Honor Guard on the other hand have gotten a rep for being overpriced by comparison and I tend to agree with that assessment. However, they are incredibly versatile and hit like a freaking hammer. In my last 1850 tourney, I ran a unit of 7 HG with a banner and digital weapons on the champ, bare otherwise, that killed everything it came into close combat with - Black Templars Emperor's Champion with CC squad, Sister's Cannoness and bodyguard, and two Grey Hunters squads and a pair of Speeders that happened to get too close. They always took casualties, but were never killed completely being very durable with 2+, even without an invulnerable.

Used as a delivery system for Calgar and paired with a techmarine for the extra powerfist attacks, they'd be even more deadly. My concern is that reflected above, that you'll only have four targets on the field and your raiders will take heavy anti-tank fire leaving the CC units to hoof it into assault range, likely falling to massed small arms. I ran into the same problem with the last tourney, running Pedro and a 10x Sternguard in one Redeemer and 7x Honorguard in another backed up with 5x CC/BP scouts in a multimelta Storm and 10x sniper scouts with Telion and a heavy bolter. The raiders took most of the fire during the advance and the Honor Guard had to walk. Your Extra Armor will help with that, for sure, but I have to wonder how much...

My recommendation, put the libby with calgar and the HG for force dome.

your 2+ infantry now has a 5++ invul for moar tuffness!

Extra Armour basically allow me to move forward all the time (unless they pen and roll 4, 5,6). I always take it if my LR is to deliver deathstar assaults.

@BronzeJon: Yeah that is what I use for my Pedro list but I need 1 slot for my techmarine to repair stuff from inside.

How about gating in your TH/SS? That way your opponent will have to decide wether to kill those but leave the LR alone or vice-versa? You could give GoI and Null Zone to your Librarian (you got plenty of ap 3 template already) so you can use it if the raider gets imobilized and/or you need to mess with target priority...

Just a thought!

Put some LCs on a few of the termies

It would be a fun list but I don't think it is very competitive. I have faced a triple LR list at 1500 points with my IG and was able to take out 2 of the Raiders turn 1 without any problems. You may be surprised how easy they are to take out with Melta Vets with Demolitions in a Vendetta. Even if you would get turn 1 and move your LRs 12" so the Melta Bombs only hit on 6s, they still have 3 Melta guns to try and stop you, then the 10 Melta-Bombs. And if you tank shock them... even better 1 free Melta-Bomb hit or 1 vet dies... no big loss.

I am not trying to go for a "rock beats paper" kind of post, I am just trying to point out that a common build that you will see in tournaments will have no problem stopping your LRs and possibly knocking you out of contention for the top prize.

:( Yeah I am super new so I am just toying with different ideas. I guess I should play it out with some proxy models before I put down a couple of hundred $$$.

leohart wrote:At 2000 pts, most people have 4 melta + 4 las.

From all my 2k games so far, land raiders always deliver.

Depends on who you are playing. If you only play with casual players, then I think you are right.