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Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




I'm restarting marines again and have been reading up extensively and talking with people. Posted a list earlier, but think I have improved it. with a bit more long-range shooting and versatility.

List:

Vulkan - 190
5 Assault Terminators - 200
Land Raider Redeemer + Multimelta + Extra Armor - 265

Dreadnought w/2 Twin-Linked Autocannons - 125

***Dreadnought w/Multimelta and Heavy Flamer - 115***

Tactical Squad of 10 in Rhino w/Meltagun, Multimelta, Sergeant w/Combi-Melta and Powerfist - 245

Tactical Squad of 10 that will Combat Squad - 220
- 5 men w/Flamer, Sergeant w/Combi-Flamer in Razorback w/Heavy Bolters
- 5 Men w/Missle Launcher

Landspeeder w/Multimelta and Heavy Flamer
Landspeeder w/Multimelta and Heavy Flamer
Total: 1500

***Vindicator is another option. Please advise based on tactics below****

Tactics:

Firebase or own objective holder is composed of "Rifleman" Dreadnought and Combat Squad with Missle Launcher will go after enemy transports first and foremost.

Razorback Flame squad can either hang back with firebase and support with HB and couter-attack or go forward with LRR and Rhino.

The LRR w/Termis and Vulkan and Melta/Fist Tactical Rhino are geared towards advancing as necessary, but could be used in counter-attack against a real aggresive opponent. I put the Powerfist in this squad cause I know it will get up close and personal and will be the objective grabber. The Razorback with flamers could advance as well and provide anti-infantry.

Landspeeders w/MM and HF can do basically everything. Deepstrike, flank, or counter-attack as necessary. Love their versatility!

As for the choice between MM/HF/DCCW Dreadnought vs. Vindicator. Both would be supporting the firebase first to counter deep strikers and flankers. The MM/HF Dreadnought can provide assault power which is lacking for the firebase. Otherwise, he can advance and serve as a semi-distraction or as a second line in the advance. The Vindicator would in theory help counter deepstriking Terminators or present an intimidating template against any advances. However, I'm prepared either way for the Dread or the Vindicator to probably become the main target of a deepstrike, but that's okay since they won't be going after my more important stuff.

Which functions better in this list Vindicator or MM/HF Dreadnought? Overall thoughts on the list?

Thanks in advance!

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/01/09 17:38:46


 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




Your plan separates all your units which will leave them all vulnerable.
With Vulkan at this low points cost should be 1)get assault termies into combat or at least make the enemy spend lots of resources stopping them 2)get all your units into melta and flamer range, 3)Use rifledreads or some ranged shooting to stop enemy attempts to block steps 1 and 2, 4)?, 5)profit.

The 'raider in particular has a lot resting on it and you only give it a rhino as a distraction going forward.
5 men with a ML and dread do not make happy bed fellows either.
The vindi relies on short range firepower-you have that in meltas and flamers what the master crafted guns can not give you however is long range fire support which is where your rifledread comes in.

I would suggest 3 rhinos, but even razorbacks or vindis, just send so much stuff forward with the raider the enemy has a huge problem.

Welcome back and good luck
   
 
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