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So I finally got around to reading the Grey Knights FAQ and noticed that the question that addresses Servo Skulls and OSR is worded quite poorly, surprise surprise.

Q: Would an orbital strike relay targeted within 12" of
one or more servo-skulls have its scatter distance
reduced? (p62)
A: No, it always scatters the full 2D6"

I think that an OSR would still only scatter one d6 because the servo skull entry in 'dex says "Likewise, friendly blast templates placed within 12" of a Servo-Skull roll on D6 less for scatter"

The reason I think you get to roll only one D6 for scatter is because the FAQ deals with scatter distance and the codex is talking about scatter dice two entirely different things in my book. Just wondering what anyone else thinks of my logic on this one.

The FAQ seems quite clear. An Orbital Strike Relay ALWAYS scatters 2d6". Furthermore, they gave this answer in relation to exactly the question you're asking, and so I don't see any way to take it except as an explicit refutation of your line of argument.

No the question I am asking is do you scatter on d6 less, the question they answered is do you get the scatter distance reduced.

They say it scatters the full 2d6 however a servo skull only makes it scatter 1d6 that is reducing dice not distance which are clearly two different things.

Can you scatter the full 2D6 on 1D6? By rolling only one scatter die, you are not fulfilling the requirement to scatter 2D6, so it doesn't matter that the FAQ speaks of distance and the book of dice.

From the FAQ:

A: No, it always scatters the full 2D6".

It very clearly stated it scatters a full two to twelve inches.

This is a little ridiculous. How can something be said to scatter "the full 2D6" when you roll only 1D6 instead of 2D6? The FAQ is clear. Drop it.

4l4ric wrote:No the question I am asking is do you scatter on d6 less, the question they answered is do you get the scatter distance reduced.

They say it scatters the full 2d6 however a servo skull only makes it scatter 1d6 that is reducing dice not distance which are clearly two different things.

You're trying to make a timing argument, but that isn't how the rules work here. You seem to be saying that servo-skulls retroactively reduce your scatter distance by removing one of the d6s you rolled, but that isn't how they work.

Normally, you roll 2d6 for scatter. If there's a servo-skull within 12", you only roll one d6. BUT, the FAQ tells us that the Orbital Strike Relay ALWAYS scatters a full 2d6.

So; you place the marker. You look at the normal rules for scatter; ok, 2d6.

Then you look at the servo-skull rules. There's one within 12"; that means scatter is only 1d6". This overrides the normal Scatter rules.

At THIS point the FAQ comes into effect, and informs you that an OSR will ALWAYS scatter 2d6". This overrides the Servo-skull rule, and you end up rolling 2d6 for scatter.

Make sense?

4l4ric wrote:No the question I am asking is do you scatter on d6 less, the question they answered is do you get the scatter distance reduced.

They say it scatters the full 2d6 however a servo skull only makes it scatter 1d6 that is reducing dice not distance which are clearly two different things.

Is 1d6 less scatter a reduction in scatter distance?

Yes - servo skulls don't work.
No - the world implodes, cats and dogs start living together, the Mayans had the date wrong, Michael Jackson and Elvis come back and give a farewell tour, and Jennifer from 8th grade says she'll sleep with me (because she indicated that the world would have to end for that to happen).

BeRzErKeR wrote:

4l4ric wrote:No the question I am asking is do you scatter on d6 less, the question they answered is do you get the scatter distance reduced.

They say it scatters the full 2d6 however a servo skull only makes it scatter 1d6 that is reducing dice not distance which are clearly two different things.

You're trying to make a timing argument, but that isn't how the rules work here. You seem to be saying that servo-skulls retroactively reduce your scatter distance by removing one of the d6s you rolled, but that isn't how they work.

Normally, you roll 2d6 for scatter. If there's a servo-skull within 12", you only roll one d6. BUT, the FAQ tells us that the Orbital Strike Relay ALWAYS scatters a full 2d6.

So; you place the marker. You look at the normal rules for scatter; ok, 2d6.


Then you look at the servo-skull rules. There's one within 12"; that means scatter is only 1d6". This overrides the normal Scatter rules.

At THIS point the FAQ comes into effect, and informs you that an OSR will ALWAYS scatter 2d6". This overrides the Servo-skull rule, and you end up rolling 2d6 for scatter.

Make sense?

Thanks you cleared it up the best. I was looking at it as a do melta bombs get 2d6 for armour pen sort of issue.