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Hi all,

I regularly play vs skaven and chaos, sometimes 2v2 4K games with an ally. My Ally and I got stomped hard last game by Chaos Chosen protected by the Skaven Storm Banner, so I thought I'd post a list and see if there are glaring problems.

Slaughtermaster General: lvl 4, Dispel Scroll, Armor of Destiny, Ironcurse Icon, Ironfist
BSB: Hvy Armor, Ironfist, BoEF, Lookout Gnoblar

7 Bull Ogres: S/M, Ironfists, Lookout Gnoblar: General goes here.
6 Ironguts: S/M

7 Leadbelchers: M: BSB goes here to nuke Abombs
4 Mournfangs: Hvy armor, ironfists, S/M

2 Ironblasters

I'm pretty sure I should drop a leadbelcher for a couple Sabretusks, but am open to other suggestions. Thanks in advance!

What army does your ally play? I'm not too sure about ogre lists myself I've only dabbled with the ones I have but it may be something to do with your composition. I mean, my theorycraft surrounding ogres is that with such low numbers accurate cannon fire and ofc, a protected stormbanner can easily see smaller/elite unit armies decimated quickly and the thing I'm assuming you have when playing Skaven and chaos, your coming up against an even mixture of tarpits and heavy elite units when fighting both Skaven and Chaos so it might not be an issue with your list there.

As for 1v1 games I don't have much to offer in terms of a reply >.<

My ally varies: that game it was chaos warriors. Skaven/Chaos didn't shoot much, but stormbanner stopped all of our war machines for two turns, and IF Dread 13th killed off allied chaos warriors quick with little penalty from IF (even affected with puppet).

I'd prefer to avoid the GreedyFist/Death combo; including it in a 2K list seems to leave me very light on bodies...

Major Revisions: I decided my army was unfocused, and revamped heavily. What do you think, dakkanet?

Slaughtermaster: lvl4 [death], Greedy Fist, Armor of Destiny, sword of anti-heroes, ironfist
Butcher: lvl 1 [maw], dispel scroll, ruby ring
BSB: hvy armor, enchanted shield, talisman of preservation

45 gnoblars: musician, trappers
8 ironguts: std, musician (SM and BSB go here, use their wards to reduce irongut casualties)

5 GunEaters: loads of guns, std, musician, BoEF (poison/sniper) (Butcher sits here, and helps fireball abombs)
4 mournfangs: hvy armor, ironfist, std, musician

Ironblaster