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So after trading around a bit and making some purchases, I have come into some new units for my Ultramarines army. I was looking for some advice on a 1500 point list. I can post my previous list if would help.

Master of the Watch
Sergeant Telion
Cato Sicarius
Librarian with Staff
Chaplain on foot
AOBR Captian
3 tactical squads, 1 captain with combi-melta, 2 flamer, 1 plasma
2 Dreadnoughts: 2 twin linked autocannons, additional arms from dreadnought set
1 Ironclad Dreadnought
5 terminators with SBs and PFs
5 man assault squad, 1 Flamer
5 man sniper scouts, 1 ML
5 CCW scouts
1 magnetized landspeeder tornado
Devastators, 2 plasma, 5 missile, 2 heavybolter, 2 lascannon
5 sternguard
1 predator
1 Vindicator
2 Razorbacks or Rhinos

Captain - Relic blade - Artificer Armor
Librarian - Nullzone + Force Dome (or Avenger)

Sternguard in Rhino (put captain and librarian here)
Dreadnought w/ 2 AC
Dreadnought w/ multi-melta (try to find a Droppod for him or proxy one)

10 man tac squad w/ lascannon + melta (back camping)
10 man tac squad w/ missle + flamer in Rhino
Telion w/ 5 Scouts

Devastator w/ 4 missle launchers
Predator w/ Assault Cannon Las sponson

Thanks for the advice. In regards to the razorback, you say to put the sternguard as well as both of the HQs, but only one HQ will fit.

I'm going for:
100 Librarian

The rest of the points will probably go here 2 Dreads, definitely 2TLAC,
185 meltabombs, flamer, lascannon
195 combimelta, melta, lascannon
75Razorback
75Razorback
184 Telion, 4 snipers, 1ML, 2 extra bodies

90 Typhoon

120 las/auto pred.
150 4ML dev. squad

Looking at the razorbacks then adding armour to run forward with them and then having soft units providing the covering fire.

@AtariAssasin: You can load up 5 Sternguards + 2HQ in a Rhino since it can carry 10. You can pump that up to 8 Sternguards and pop in a couple of combi weapons.

@MFletch: Looks like a gun line list with a surgical strike group of 2 combat squads (melta, combi melta, lasplas razorback).

What do you think about dropping the ML dev squad and 2 extra scouts and ML scouts (185 pts) and get 1 thunderfire cannon + another typhoon?

Telion snipers + thunderfire cannon is a great combo.
2 Typhoon will survive more than 1 typhoon.

I guess the choice is 2 sniper shots + 4 ML shots versus 4 Str 6 blast + 2 ML shots

Thanks for the advice guys. I appreciate the input. I'd like to get the other stuff on the lists but as of right now the models posted are all I have, so I'd like to keep it in those units until I can buff out my collection some more.

I was looking through my codex and i was kinda confused. Does Telion count as an HQ choice?

Nope - he's just a sergeant upgrade

It all depends on how you want to play - i'd probably play a gunline with your models.
How are the razorbacks kitted out? And the pred?
Or is it all boxed?

I love the dreads - keep them around and you'll be chugging through many a speeder/ transport.

Ah I wasn't sure with Telion, thanks. The two razorbacks's tops are removable, so I can make them rhinos or razorbacks. I have one las cannon top and one HB top. The Landspeeder Tornado, dreadnought, and the Predator are magnetized, so I can swap the weapons out on those as well.

Awesome - I love AC/Las Preds if you're against lots of mech. Others rely on other things to pop them and use Dakka preds - but I always seem to have enough anti horde, and never enough big stuff to put that major hurt on people.

I'd keep the dreads as both TW AC on both arms, use them to put wounds on high T models and transports.

I personally keep on my theme of high strength shots but a HB back isn't the worst based upon your meta.

You could always run them as rhino's - put a 10 man tac squad in side with a ML and Flamer or melta as you want. This provides a nice objective dump unit if you decide to get out of your metal box.

Razorback spam is an effective army list against the current meta in my opinion.

Landspeeders are pretty fun - if you could figure out what you want it to do. Using those CC scouts in a land speeder storm are amazing if used well. I believe there is a tactica somewhere on Dakka.

I was trying to make a list with lotsa different stuff, just to have some fun but hopefully not get too wrecked... How about this?

Chapter Master-170
Relic Blade
Artificer Armor

Scoutsx8-188
Telion
Snipers
ML
Cloaks

Rhino-35

Razorback-75
lascannons

Dev Squad-150
4xML

Sternguard-155
combimelta
power fist

Dread-165
ccw
sb
mm

Landspeeder-70
HF
MM

Assault Marinesx5-140
flamer
combat shield
powerfist

Predator-120
las sponsons

tac squad -190
combi melta
plasmagun
lascannon

total 1468

Seems kinda sketchy to me, lotsa point... not a whole lotta units. I dunno... Tac squad in rhino, stern and captain in razorback, scouts and dev as support. Dread, speeder, pred midfield to antagonize armor, hit high value targets. Assault marines countercharge. Sound okay?

1- Never ever take a generic Chapter Master. Period. He is overcosted for what he does and does not unlock any extras. Always take a Captain if you need to take the Chapter Master.
2- Telion gives scouts Steath so do not take Cloaks.
3- Scouts don't come with Rhino, so that is out of the question.
4- If you need to take long range Razorback, always get LasPlas since you can survive 2 weapon destroys with it.
5- Do not take assault marines in any circumstances, always opt for 5-man Thunder hammer and stormshield terminators

Okay, thanks for the input. Lemme try and address these.
1- I'll switch to captain, NP. I was thinking orbital might be useful?
2- Cloaks off, done.
3- 1 rhino for tac, 1 razorback for sternguard. Scouts hang back or camp objective
4- Don't have a lasplas, but i can probably kitbash one easy enough.
5- I do not have assault termies. I can sub out my assault marines for tactical terms, or another tac squad though. maybe a second dread?

1- Orbital bombardment scatter the full 2D6 so you will be missing (a lot). For that 25 points, you can get a lascannon or something.
2- Cool
3- Scouts hanging on objective is the right place to be. Make sure to "go to ground" whenever they fire lots of shots at you.
4- GW doesn't make lasplas turret. You can make it yourself but you can also buy it premade at http://puppetswar.com/product.php?id_product=37
5- Tactical termies are not that great for what they cost (perhaps in the 6th edition coming up in 6 months). I suggest a second dread, TL autocannon arms is the single best dreadnought option. They even have a name: Riflemandread. Sit him in the back and pop transports. Once all transports are gone, start killing devastators or other long range units.

Right now you have 2 (maybe 3) scoring units, you will probably want another scoring unit. So another tactical squad with melta + missle launcher in a rhino (or razorback lasplas) works.

You should also consider running a librarian. He has awesome powers. Take Null Zone + Avenger.

So here is the list that I think will work with your units. It is not extremely competitive but it should work once you know what to do:

Librarian - Null Zone + Avenger + Bolt Pistol
Sternguards - 3 Combi-melta - Rhino

Captain - Relic Blade - Bolt Pistol - Artificer Armour

Dreadnought w/ 2x TLAC
Dreadnought w/ MM + DCCW (w/ SB)

Telion - 4 sniper scouts - 1 missle launcher scout
Tactical Squad - Meltagun - Missle Launcher - Rhino
Tactical Squad - Meltagun - Lascannon
Tactical Squad - Meltagun - Lascannon

Predator - Autocannon + Lascannon Sponson

With this list, you have 1 Dreadnought + Sternguards with Librarian + Tac squad with Captain . This squad can be sent in to mid range and capture the objective there or get into cover and try to whittle them down. If you face IG, then charge in.

The other units
Rifleman Dreadnought
Predator
2x Tac Squad
1x Scout Squad

are to stay back and provide covering file. You will want to split them up, don't bundle everything together since it will die to Drop Pod assaults.

I have a librarian, I can swap out the chapter master for a librarian, but I'm not sure what spells to go with. I'm gonna redo the math on my list and see what it comes to.
NEW LIST
Librarian-100

Scoutsx8-164
Telion
Snipers
ML

Rhino-35

Razorback-75
las-plas

Dev Squad-150
4xML

Sternguard-155
combimelta
power fist

Rifleman Dread-125

Dread-105
ccw
sb
mm

Landspeeder-70
HF
MM

Predator-120
las sponsons

Tac Squad -190
combi melta
plasmagun
lascannon

Tac Squad-170
multimelta
flamer


total 1479

I did more editing after checking what you have in your list. Another thing you can do is to drop your captain from the list and get another Predator with AC/Lascannons.

Thanks for the help, theres a bunch to go on here.

Second list looks good, you basically trade one tac squad for a Razorback LasPlas. If you hide the Razorback LasPlas, and get cover save, I think you can pull it off.

Also, personally I do not like Multimelta on tac squad since they will NEVER see any action. Lascannon only cost 10 pts more and since you got 10 dudes in cover w/ a 3+ armour save, you can just sit there and pop vehicle all game. A multimelta will just sit there and do nothing.

A devastator squad w/ 4x ML is okay but not the best Heavy Support choice. For the models you got, go for it. Make sure to use your sergent's signum every time you shoot.

In regards to DEVS I was told the opposite. I had before 2 plasma cannons and 2 HBs, but I was told that 4 MLs isthe only viable dev loadout.

4 MLs is the best Devastator load out for sure. But comparing to Predator (120 pts), Rifleman Dreads (w/ master of the forge), even Thunderfire cannon, devastator squad of codex space marine is not all that.

C:SM Devastators squads are pretty bad, since Blood Angels get the 4 Missile Launcher squad for 130, and Long Fangs are cheaper, can take a fifth weapon and can split fire.

Ah, fair enough. However, I like Codex Marines, and they're also all I have. Knowing what is better than what I have doesn't help me unfortunately...

Also a reason to run dev over pred is to take another lasplas razorback.

So just ended with a draw against a Soul Drinkers army on territories at 1500. Seemed pretty solid, but I think I need more Anti-Armor... Landraiders are a mofo...

What list did you run? Most people do not take lr in 1500

My list was:
Librarian-avenger, nullzone
Captain-relic blade, artificer armor
dread-2 tlac
dread-mm, ccw, hb
5 sternguard- 3 combimelta
10 man tac-las cannon, plasma, combimelta
10 man tac-las cannon, flamer
8 scouts-telion, snipers, ml
dev squad-4MLs
2 rhinos
1 landspeeder-mm, flamer
1 predator-ac, hbs

His was something like:
chaplain with jetpack
10 man assault squad-flamer, plasma pistol
2 rhinos
1 predator-ac,hbs
1 vindicator
1 land raider crusader
5 tactical termies
10 man tac squad melta, ml
10 man tac sqad plasma, mm

The game went 6 rounds, I managed to take out his assault squad, chaplain, vindicator, landraider, 3 terminators. I lost my mm dread, scouts, dev squad, landspeeder. 1 rhino and my librarian.
We both held one objective and contested the remaining two.

Looks like the list is working out. I think your list have only a limited number of melta in return for having long range transport popping. Since he has a crusader, you can sit back popping his small transport while waiting for his crusader to be in the melta range.

Of course, if the vindicator ever shows itself, make sure to pop it first.

Yep, I didn't manage to get the vindicator until the last round but was lucky enough to keep rolling weapon disabled. I unloaded all of my combi meltas on the landraider but essentially did nothing... Just bad rolling i guess?

I have played Marines for so many years Its unimaginable. I cant remember exactly what you have in your collection so here's a 1500 point list for you to look at and see how it runs.

HQ:

- Captain Sicarious = 200 Pts

Elites:

- 6 Sternguard Veterans = 225 Pts
Razorback with Twinlinked Assault cannon

Troops:

- 10 Tactical Marines = 225 Pts
Power Weapon
Melta-gun
Missile Launcher
Rhino


- 10 Tactical Marines = 225 Pts
Power Weapon
Melta-gun
Missile Launcher
Rhino


- 10 Tactical Marines = 235 Pts
Power Fist
Melta-gun
Missile Launcher
Rhino

Fast Attack:

- 5 Space Marine Bikers = 110 Pts
2 Melta-guns

Heavy Support:

- Vindicator = 115 Pts

- Predator = 165 Pts
Twin-linked Lascannon turret
Lascannon sponsons

Total Army Cost = 1500 Points

5 space marine bikers with 2 melts gun is 160. Do you mean 3?