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Ok, there is another Warhammer tourney coming up and I am going to try my Brets again. I have to decoded to go more knight heavy and not take an expensive lord and MaA this time.

So what do you guys think? And I still have 115pts

LORDS
Prophetess w/lvl 4, Lore of Beasts, Horse, Earthing Rod - 265

HEROES
Paladin w/BSB, Horse, Dawnstone - 99

Paladin w/Lance, Horse, Shield, Luck Stone - 85

Paladin w/Lance, Horse, Enchanted Shield, Biting Blade - 93

Paladin w/Lance, Horse, Shield, Dragonhelm - 93

Damsel w/Horse, Crown of Cammand, Lore of Beasts - 115

CORE
8 Knights of the Realm w/Full Command - 213

8 Knights of the Realm w/Full Command - 213

7 Knights of the Realm w/Full Command - 189

7 Knights Errents w/Full Command, Errentry Banner - 181

20 Archers w/Musician, Braziers - 130

20 Archers w/Musician, Braziers - 130

RARE

Trebuchet - 90

1. Take another Trebuchet if you can
2. I always take the Gromril Great Helm on my BSB purely for the re-rolls for AS which are so handy in keeping him alive, I'd drop the dawnstone to get this on him

The Dawnstone gives the BSB a re-rollable armour save and costs 10pts cheaper than the Gromhil Great Helm. And I thought about taking another Trebuchet but the one that I have has never impressed me to much so I have never bought another one.

What about changing one of the 7 KoTR units to grail knights and giving one of the Paladins the grail vow?

Less characters, more dudes with Lances.

The dawnstone gives you a 3+ re-rollable. The gromril great helm gives you a 2+ re-rollable. A 3+ armor save does not a happy BSB make.

Okay, I guess I'm confused then. How does the gromhil helm give him a 2+?

Page 61 of your army book.

Ok, how about this? It comes to 1996pts

LORDS
Prophetess w/lvl 4, Lore of Beasts, Horse, Earthing Rod - 265

HEROES
Paladin w/BSB, Horse, Gromhil Great Helm, Biting Blade - 114

Paladin w/Lance, Horse, Enchanted Shield, Birth Sword of Carcossone - 118

Paladin w/Lance, Horse, Shield, Dawnstone, Sword of Striking- 123

Damsel w/Horse, Crown of Cammand, Lore of Beasts - 115

CORE
8 Knights of the Realm w/Full Command, Banner of Eternal Flame - 223

8 Knights of the Realm w/Full Command - 213

7 Knights of the Realm w/Full Command, Banner of Chalons - 199

8 Knights Errents w/Full Command, Errentry Banner - 201

20 Archers w/Musician, Braziers - 130

20 Archers w/Musician, Braziers - 130

RARE

Trebuchet - 90

5 Mounted Yoemen - 75

Since I rely on other characters to be killy, my preferred BSB build is Gromil Great Helm and Virtue of Purity. 2+RR/5++ is about as good protection as Brets get.

What do guy guys of this list? I think it has a lot more killing potential

LORDS
Lord w/Shield, Horse, Virtue of Heroism, Heartwood Lance, Dawnstone - 234

Prophetess w/lvl 4, Lore of Beasts, Horse, Earthing Rod - 265

HEROES
Paladin w/BSB, Horse, Gromhil Great Helm, Biting Blade - 104

Paladin w/ Horse, Enchanted Shield, Birth Sword of Carcossone, Potion of Foolhardiness- 119

Damsel w/Horse, Dispel Scroll, Lore of Beasts - 105

Damselw/Horse, Silver Mirror, Lore of Beasts - 120

CORE
7 Knights of the Realm w/Full Command, Banner of Eternal Flame - 202

8 Knights of the Realm w/Full Command - 216

7 Knights of the Realm w/Full Command, Banner of Discipline- 207

8 Knights Errents w/Full Command, Errentry Banner - 201

20 Archers w/Musician, Braziers - 130


RARE

Trebuchet - 90

Any more helpful comments

Gromil Great Helm- 30pts +1 armour and re-roll armour

Dawnstone + Charmed Shield- 25+5pts, +1 armour, re-roll armour, discount first wound on 2+.

Your current list can't take advantage of this, but this is why you should never ever take the Helm when you've still got the other two items freed up. Of course, for 5 more points, you can get the Enchanted Shield and an extra armour instead of the Charmed effect.