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thats a mouthful every time I say it, anyways, I got the PSC set with the 15 halftracks and the infantry, and want some panzer IV's (f1/f2's) but have no idea which book to look for the list that lets me take them, though I am pretty new so that is my excuse lol

(one day I hope PSC makes Polish...would play them in an instant!)

Easyarmy.com is a good website for making lists. I suggest you use it.

I would suggest LW Western Front "Earth & Steel" as a German Player you get an awful lot of options!

If you want Pz IV F1/F2 then you are looking at mid war, specifically the Eastern Front and Africa books. If you want a late war list you would be best to use the new Grey Wolf book.

You actually want the Gepanzerte Panzergrenadierkompanie in Grey Wolf, which is mostly generic, but does have a little bit of Eastern Front stuff.

Otherwise, there's the Panzergrenadier Lehr lists in Earth & Steel.

There's also various other lists that might include the PSC halftracks, the 251s if I recall.

Speciflcally you'll want the Gepanzerte lists to make sure you have armored half tracks, and not just trucks. Then some lists use a different version of the half track.

mwnciboo wrote:I would suggest LW Western Front "Earth & Steel" as a German Player you get an awful lot of options!

Earth and Steel is a good book with lots of options, but for Heer Panzergrenadiers Grey Wolf is your go to book. Unless you want to do Panzer lehr or 21st Panzer which are both quite restrictive, especially 21st Panzer.

Are you intent on getting Panzer IVFs? Plastic Soldier kits allow you to make Panzer IVH models (as well as F1s, F2s and Gs).

no any of the panzer IVs will do as you mentioned, PSC has a kit with all the variants and I have had nothing but good experiences with them
good prices, fast shipping (I've gotten BJD's in the same country here slower then they got me the germans, and there's an ocean dividing me and the UK lol)

There's a FREE SS Panzergrenadier list here: http://www.flamesofwar.com/Portals/0/Documents/Briefings/17-SS-Panzergrenadierdivision.pdf

Taken from this page of Battlefront's website: http://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?tabid=108&kb_cat_id=100

It's a good guide to roughly what you need (or exactly if you want to play 17th SS) without spending any money.