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Made in ca
Virus Filled Maggot







Looking to build a new feral ork army and need some advice as to the better build (or any suggestions). All my trukks and buggies will be modelled with animals, and all rokkits will be modelled as spear chukkas stapped with dynamite)

Debating between two list:

List One - Nob heavy feral list (BC=big choppas, all nobz have them)
Spoiler:

HQ
Warboss pole, BC, cybork (runes), attack squig, kombi-rokkit 98
Warboss pole, BC, cybork (runes), attack squig, kombi-rokkit 98


Nobz 10 waaugh banner, BCs 290 (troop choice with Boss)
Trukk Bshoota Red, Wreckin, Ram, stikkbombs 60
2 orderly grot 10
Nobz 10 waaugh banner, BCs 290 (troop choice with Boss)
Trukk Bshoota Red, Wreckin, Ram, stikkbombs 60
2 orderly grot 10
Nobz 10 waaugh banner, BCs 290
Trukk Bshoota Red, Wreckin, Ram, stikkbombs 60
1 orderly grot 5



Troops

Ork Boyz 12 Nob+pole+BC 92
Trukk Bshoota Red, Wreckin, Ram, stikkbombs 60

Ork Boyz 12 Nob+pole+BC 92
Trukk Bshoota Red, Wreckin, Ram, stikkbombs 60

Ork Boyz 12 Nob+pole+BC 92
Trukk Bshoota Red, Wreckin, Ram, stikkbombs 60

Fast
Warbuggies 2 Trakk, red rokkit 90
Warbuggies 2 Trakk, red rokkit 90
Warbuggies 2 Trakk, red rokkit 90



List option 2 - All cyborked (using savage ork Wards/Paint to 'cout as' cyborked like fantasy savage orcs)
Spoiler:

HQ
Warboss pole, BC, attack squig, cybork (runes), kombi-rokkit 95
Mad Shaman Grotsnik 160

ALL ORKS HAVE RUNES 5+ INVULNERABLE
Nobz 10 waaugh banner, BCs 310 (troops with Boss)
Trukk Bshoota Red, Wreckin, Ram + stikkcukka 60
shaman+ 3 grots 45
Nobz 10 waaugh banner, BCs 315 (troops with Grotsnik)
Trukk Bshoota Red, Wreckin, Ram + stikkcukka 60

Troops
Ork Boyz 12 Nob+pole+BC 152
Trukk Bshoota Red, Wreckin, Ram + stikkcukka 60

Ork Boyz 12 Nob+pole+BC 152
Trukk Bshoota Red, Wreckin, Ram + stikkcukka 60

Ork Boyz 12 Nob+pole+BC 152
Trukk Bshoota Red, Wreckin, Ram + stikkcukka 60

Fast
Warbuggies 2 Trakk, red rokkit 90
Warbuggies 2 Trakk, red rokkit 90
Warbuggies 3 Trakk, red rokkit 135



Basically it is a question of getting more nobz but no invulnerable saves on everyone, or a universal 1/3 save on every ork.

Which?

Also, am I missing having enough heavy hitting power (over Str8)? Land Raiders etc could be an issue.



This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/01/15 06:12:12


 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




You will love having kff. Also go for more trukks and buggies as many as possible.

Let the warbosses travel with boyz to spread your threats.

At the very least you can save a load of points by reducing the number per nob squad. 10 is a huge percentage of your points.
Nob squads need wound allocation as well, klaw, painboy, cyborg bodies, banner.

How many points are these armies?

Do not worry about landraiders
   
Made in ca
Virus Filled Maggot





Thanks MFletch,

Right now both of those lists are 2000pts, but I have similar build split option debate with both reduced and larger versions.

I know KFF would be a great choice - but with the Feral theme I was hesitant to take a Mek. I suppose I could "count as" the Mek to be a shaman type blessing the vehicles/animals but given the theme I was drawn to either warbosses or warpheads (shamans).

I had considered spreading the bosses into the boyz trucks and I agree that I should do that (thanks).


What then is the optimal Nob unit size?
I am trying to limit the # of Klaws or special weapons for the Feral theme.


And the big question: Is converting Mad Dok into a Shaman and granting every ork in the army the 5+ invulnerable save worth it?
My thoughts were that as this is a 90% melee based army and since power weapons etc are common, it would basically reduce my casualties by 33% and thus greatly increase chances of winning assaults and forcing fall backs (and avoiding my own). It would also help during kill-point missions during which the larger force would give up many more points (more trukks and more deaths).
- In the 2000pts list this means 10 less nobz, one less trukk, and one less buggy
- in the larger 2500pts list this mean switching 2 nobz group for 2 boyz groups (same number of bodies on the field)

 
   
Made in us
Dakka Veteran





Have you considered a squiggoth or two?
   
Made in ca
Virus Filled Maggot





Yep, I have indeed.

I guess I should specify that the above lists are aimed to be regular 40k allowed into tourneys and the like with a few "counts as" conversions.

Opening up armageddon brings in a few more possibilities. I am also planning to get a few Battlewagon style monsters/squiggoth conversions.

 
   
Made in us
Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine





Sitting in yo' bath tub, poopin out shoggoths

I was just thinking, you could use the normal sized squigoths as counts as battlewagons.

750 points

1000 Points
 
   
Made in ca
Virus Filled Maggot





Alright, switching bosses etc into boyz and spreading out threats, also trying to get some battlewagon (squiggoths) in

Option 1: all Cyborked
Spoiler:

HQ
Warboss pole, BC, attack squig, cybork (runes), kombi-rokkit 95
Mad Shaman Grotsnik 160

ALL ORKS HAVE RUNES 5+ INVULNERABLE
Nobz 10 waaugh banner, BCs, pole 315
Trukk Bshoota Red, Wreckin, Ram + stikkcukka 60
shaman+ 3 grots 45
Nobz 10 waaugh banner, BCs, pole 315
Trukk Bshoota Red, Wreckin, Ram + stikkcukka 60
shaman +2 grots 40
Troops
Ork Boyz 11+boss 121
Trukk Bshoota Red, Wreckin, Ram + stikkcukka 60

Ork Boyz 11+shaman 121
Trukk Bshoota Red, Wreckin, Ram + stikkcukka 60

Boyz 12 Nob+pole+HC 152
Battlewagon red, deff rolla, wreckin ball 125

Fast
Warbuggies 2 Trakk, red rokkit 90
Warbuggies 2 Trakk, red rokkit 90
Warbuggies 2 Trakk, red rokkit 90


Option 2: More wagons, no cybork
Spoiler:

HQ
Warboss pole, BC, attack squig, kombi-rokkit 93
Warboss pole, BC, attack squig, kombi-rokkit 93


Nobz 10 waaugh banner, BCs, pole 295
Battlewagon red, deff rolla, wreckin ball, 4xbshoota 145
3 grot orderlies 15

Nobz 10 waaugh banner, BCs, pole 295
Battlewagon red, deff rolla, wreckin ball, 4xbshoota 145
3 grot orderlies 15

Troops
Ork Boyz 11+boss 66
Trukk Bshoota Red, Wreckin, Ram, stikkbombs 60

Ork Boyz 11+shaman 66
Trukk Bshoota Red, Wreckin, Ram, stikkbombs 60

Ork Boyz 12 Nob+pole+HC 92
Battlewagon red, deff rolla, wreckin ball, 4xbshoota 145

Fast
Warbuggies 3 Trakk, red rokkit 135
Warbuggies 3 Trakk, red rokkit 135
Warbuggies 3 Trakk, red rokkit 135


So now it is against:
A) All cyborked Orks
B) 2 more batltewagons (over trukks), with lots more big shootas and 3 more wartrakks, but no cyborks

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/01/15 17:39:34


 
   
 
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