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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 10:53:05
Subject: Are swiftclaws and skyclaws worth using??
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Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate
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Hello I have 10 assault marines and 6 bikes and an attack bike, was wondering if they are worth using in a space wolves army?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 11:17:11
Subject: Are swiftclaws and skyclaws worth using??
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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It depends a lott on your style of play and your list.
Attack bikes are good with drop pods (coming to the backup.) Sky claws are less used but can be a good adition once you reach 3 rhinos as they can advance behind them. They are a nice alternative to the landraider/wolf priest/blood claws "death stars". If you do not swear by the wolf pack leaders they give a very good place to stick your HQ besides standing sniping opp living lingtining with the long fangs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 18:14:09
Subject: Are swiftclaws and skyclaws worth using??
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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Short answer: No.
Longer answer: They're too expensive for mobile, transport-less Blood Claws. You could probably make a fun list using them, but don't expect it to be competitive or anything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 18:26:30
Subject: Are swiftclaws and skyclaws worth using??
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PanOceaniac Hacking Specialist Sergeant
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I have to agree competitively you will be hard pressed to do well with them in the current meta. But you will be hard pressed to compete with a unit of 10 skyclaws lead by a wolf priest with jump pack. Throw two melta guns in there and it packs a wallop on the charge with 36 basic, 8 power weapon attacks all rerollable
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 18:34:50
Subject: Are swiftclaws and skyclaws worth using??
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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Yeah, the rule with Blood Claws is "go big or go home". You have to take lots of them (10+) if you expect them to perform, but that is an expensive prospect. Throwing on a Wolf Priest and/or Wolf Guard squad leader make it even more expensive, but even deadlier. You really have to build a list around it to make it work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 20:17:06
Subject: Are swiftclaws and skyclaws worth using??
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Nope. You wanna use jump troops? Play blood angels. You wanna use bikes? Vanilla marines does it better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 22:05:38
Subject: Re:Are swiftclaws and skyclaws worth using??
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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Swiftclaws are useful outriders for a mechanized wolf force. But keep them cheap. 3 + Attack Bike and give them a Meltagun and Multi-Melta. Comes out to 115 points. One or two units of that provide a useful screen for your more important units (the Grey Hunters in Rhinos, probably with at least one Rune Priest) and give you some mobile Multi-Meltas for tank hunting. Generally they last longer than Land Speeders and they can be useful to reinforce any Grey Hunters that get caught in combat and need a hand.
Skyclaws... well they just aren't good. I dislike Thunderwolf cavalry as an idea enough that I ignored that entry for a long time and just ran Skyclaws. I had to get beaten over the head by my friends and people on the Internet until I tried it out. Skyclaws generally get maybe one good turn in the assault phase then die. Either to enemy shooting after the fact or die in combat against what you hit. For 180 points plus the 125 minimum points for a Wolf Priest with Jump pack, its just not worth it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 22:40:07
Subject: Are swiftclaws and skyclaws worth using??
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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Recently I've been toying with the idea of putting a Rune Priest on a bike and giving him a Swiftclaw escort. Thoughts?
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