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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 21:01:36
Subject: Telion as HQ?
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
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I am working on an ultramarines list and I asked for some advice, and I was suggested Telion as one of my choices. However one of the lists has my chapter master, librarian, and Telion. So does he count as an HQ choice? And if so, cant you only have 2?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 21:14:38
Subject: Re:Telion as HQ?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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No, he's an upgrade character for a scout squad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 21:15:06
Subject: Telion as HQ?
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Lieutenant General
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Not all special characters are HQ choices.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 21:15:34
Subject: Telion as HQ?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I don't have the codex handy but does one of them count as an HQ choice, but not count toward your HQ allowance?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 22:21:11
Subject: Re:Telion as HQ?
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
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Ah I see, thanks for the help guys.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 22:32:51
Subject: Telion as HQ?
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Happyjew wrote:I don't have the codex handy but does one of them count as an HQ choice, but not count toward your HQ allowance?
No, it counts one model in a squad of [whatever unit]. In this case, Telion is just a scout in a scout squad. An awesome scout, but still just a member of the unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 02:54:32
Subject: Telion as HQ?
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Boosting Ultramarine Biker
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Telion and Chronos are independent characters- infantry who simply count as an addition to a unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 03:13:11
Subject: Telion as HQ?
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Lieutenant General
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MisterMoon wrote:Telion and Chronos are independent characters- infantry who simply count as an addition to a unit
You might want to check on that. While I don't have Codex Space Marines I'm pretty sure that at least Telion is not an Independent Character.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 03:21:25
Subject: Telion as HQ?
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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MisterMoon wrote:Telion and Chronos are independent characters- infantry who simply count as an addition to a unit.
Telion is never an IC, he simple replaces the Scout Sergeant.
Chronus is only an IC after the tank he is assigned to is wrecked and he passes his roll.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 03:45:54
Subject: Telion as HQ?
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Boosting Ultramarine Biker
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ToBeWilly wrote:MisterMoon wrote:Telion and Chronos are independent characters- infantry who simply count as an addition to a unit.
Telion is never an IC, he simple replaces the Scout Sergeant.
Chronus is only an IC after the tank he is assigned to is wrecked and he passes his roll.
yes, scratch IC, I meant just Infantry... ooops
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 11:37:32
Subject: Telion as HQ?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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ToBeWilly wrote:MisterMoon wrote:Telion and Chronos are independent characters- infantry who simply count as an addition to a unit.
Telion is never an IC, he simple replaces the Scout Sergeant.
Chronus is only an IC after the tank he is assigned to is wrecked and he passes his roll.
Incorrect on Chronus - as soon as the tank is destroyed he becomes an IC; he is only placed as a model if he passes his roll.
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