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I am starting my Warlord project, but I want it to look unique. My question is, are their only variants of Lucius and Mars? Or are their others?

I know I could just make one up, but I just wanted to make sure there was no fluff saying ONLY Lucius and Mars produce titans.
   
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I don't believe so. Every Forge World has their own Titan Legion, so it would be quite odd if only Lucius and Mars produced them.

 
   
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No they are many other Forge worlds that do.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Forge_World#.TxOV54HF_To

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Every Forge World capable of producing Titans has their own Legion. Some due rely on the Lucius and Mars patterns, most will have their own though.

Both Titan Legions in Titanicuis had their own models.Really, alot of it would be the inside productions. Outword appearnce would be pretty much identical. Or well, as Idendical as something unique as a titan can be.
   
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A "pattern" doesn't mean that only those worlds produce titans, a pattern is simply a certain design for a specific system, kind of like an m-16 for example in the real world. There are numerous manufacturers of m-16s and like weapons, and not all of them appear the same but they all function the same. Mars and Lucius pattern designs are simply the most popular and widespread ones constructed at forgeworlds throughout the galaxy, it doesnt mean only those FW's produce those patterns, nor does it mean that there arent other rarer patterns.

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The Forgeworld Graia produces Warlord Titans according to the 40K :Space Marine video game. Graia is the home of the Legio Astraman (Morning stars) Titan Legion according to an old White Dwarf article about painting old-style Warlord Titans

Other Forge Worlds with Titan legions on them that have been mentioned here and there:

Accatran
Agripinaa
Antioc
Anvilus 9
Artemia Majoris
Belacane
Cyraxus II8
Estaban III
Estaban VII
Fortis Binary
Galatia
Graia
Gryphonne IV
Hadd
Hesh
Het
Idumea
Incaladion
Jupiter
JXM A18Z3
Lucius
Magnos Omicron
Mars
Metalica
Mezoa
M'khand
Omnicron 71-DX3
Opus Macharius
Orestes
Perinetus
Phaeton
Proximus
Ryboth
Ryza
Shenlong
SynfordH
Synford II
Skorgulian
Stygies VIII
Tigrus
Tolkhan
Triplex Phall
Turanshush
Urdesh
Voss Prime
Zpandex
   
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Bongfu wrote:I am starting my Warlord project, but I want it to look unique. My question is, are their only variants of Lucius and Mars? Or are their others?


That would be like asking if only Cadia and Krieg produce Guardsman. There are hundreds if not thousands of Forge Worlds in the Imperium, every is capable to produce battle Titans. Are they producing? I don't know sice GW gives us very little on that subject.

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Brother Coa wrote:
That would be like asking if only Cadia and Krieg produce Guardsman. There are hundreds if not thousands of Forge Worlds in the Imperium, every is capable to produce battle Titans. Are they producing? I don't know sice GW gives us very little on that subject.



I highly doubt that EVERY forge world is capable of producing Titans. That would be like saying every Ford factory is capable of making all cars in the world. Not every "auto plant" makes even a whole vehicle. It would be reasonable to assume that some forge worlds produce parts and materials that go into "larger" systems. They probably rely on somewhat of a communal system, where many smaller forge worlds produce parts for a nearby large forge world.

For example, in established fluff, the Raven Guard world of Deliverance is a fairly well producing forge world. It would not make much sense to me to have this planet making anything other than Astartes war gear. If a planet is geared towards making Marine's armor and weapons, they probably don't have much space or ability to produce a Titan themselves.

Which brings up a question in regards to this thread, Would a "Space Marine" gear producing FW get its own Titan Legion, because they would have all the protection "needed" from their marine chapter?
   
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Thanks for the info guys. I understand that Forge-Worlds have their own Titan Legions, and that patterns mean nothing about their origin other than that is who rediscovered the STC. I guess I should have worded it correctly and asked if there were other patterns out there.

I know the Emperor-Class titans are all unique, as they are all great works of art in the Ad mech's eyes.


Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:
That would be like asking if only Cadia and Krieg produce Guardsman. There are hundreds if not thousands of Forge Worlds in the Imperium, every is capable to produce battle Titans. Are they producing? I don't know sice GW gives us very little on that subject.



I highly doubt that EVERY forge world is capable of producing Titans. That would be like saying every Ford factory is capable of making all cars in the world. Not every "auto plant" makes even a whole vehicle. It would be reasonable to assume that some forge worlds produce parts and materials that go into "larger" systems. They probably rely on somewhat of a communal system, where many smaller forge worlds produce parts for a nearby large forge world.

For example, in established fluff, the Raven Guard world of Deliverance is a fairly well producing forge world. It would not make much sense to me to have this planet making anything other than Astartes war gear. If a planet is geared towards making Marine's armor and weapons, they probably don't have much space or ability to produce a Titan themselves.

Which brings up a question in regards to this thread, Would a "Space Marine" gear producing FW get its own Titan Legion, because they would have all the protection "needed" from their marine chapter?


I think that a Forgeworld dedicated to producing gear for a Space Marine chapter would get its own Legion for defense. Most, if not all, Forgeworlds have at least one maniple of titans to defend their factories. Most have huge standing legions of Skittarii, so one would imagine they would have armored and titan support as well.
   
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Not every forge world is allowed to produce titans but MOST do have their own legion. Just like not all forge worlds are able to build baneblades.

Mars mandates what each forge world is allowed to produce. They are fairly greedy about knowledge and the patterns for true weapons of war are indeed knowledge. Politics and old pacts get in the way of everything. Even kick ass titans.
   
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Ensis Ferrae wrote:I highly doubt that EVERY forge world is capable of producing Titans. That would be like saying every Ford factory is capable of making all cars in the world. Not every "auto plant" makes even a whole vehicle. It would be reasonable to assume that some forge worlds produce parts and materials that go into "larger" systems. They probably rely on somewhat of a communal system, where many smaller forge worlds produce parts for a nearby large forge world.

For example, in established fluff, the Raven Guard world of Deliverance is a fairly well producing forge world. It would not make much sense to me to have this planet making anything other than Astartes war gear. If a planet is geared towards making Marine's armor and weapons, they probably don't have much space or ability to produce a Titan themselves.

Which brings up a question in regards to this thread, Would a "Space Marine" gear producing FW get its own Titan Legion, because they would have all the protection "needed" from their marine chapter?


I don't know about your ending question, but your first paragraph as I understand the fluff is almost exactly how Forge Worlds are written to operate.

That is to say, a Forge World Majoris (such as Ryza or the Lathe system) has several nearby systems called "Knight Worlds" which are smaller, less advanced Forge Worlds that contribute resources and smaller components to the larger Forge World. These knight worlds are where Knight Titans come from, because they do not have the resources to produce large-scale Battle Titans thanks to the larger Forge World's demands.

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