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Hi, I've had some Grey Knights for a couple of months now and nearly have enough for semi competitive games at my local GW. I'm going for a 2000 point list overall but I'm starting at 1000 and buying my way up into a different 2k list. How is this list for semi competitive games at 1000 Singles or 1000 per player doubles?

HQ:

Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor 93
Power Armour, Inferno Pistol, Thunder Hammer, Hammerhand

Troops:

Strike Squad 175
MC Hammer, Psycannon, Razorback, TL Heavy Bolters, Psybolt Ammunition

Strike Squad 175
MC Hammer, Psycannon, Razorback, TL Heavy Bolters, Psybolt Ammunition

Strike Squad 175
MC Hammer, Psycannon, Razorback, TL Heavy Bolters, Psybolt Ammunition

Strike Squad 175
MC Hammer, Psycannon, Razorback, TL Heavy Bolters, Psybolt Ammunition

Elites:

10 Death Cult Assassins 205
Chimera, Heavy Flamer.

998/1000

Nice list. I love the assassins having hammerhand, but at 93 points why not just put out Coteaz? He is seven more points and adds a few extras. Not to mention he is a great looking
model. Good idea having razorback squads as well, though I would put some lascannons on them, just for some long range anti tank scariness. People don't expect long range from this army.

I run a list fairly similar to this at 1000 pts, at least in general it's pretty similar. Being that the chimera isn't an assault vehicle my biggest worry would be getting shot apart with only a 5+ invuln save. Have you ever run into that as a problem?

However, I love the 5 man psycannon, hammer, razorback squads as troop choices. I'm never disappointed with them. In the list I run I have a psyfleman dreadnaught and a 3x psycannon purgation squad instead of the chimera and one of the 5 man squads. I've been looking to get my hands on a land raider to run an 8 DC assassins + rad grenade inquisitor, but I'd just be afraid for their general well-being if they had to sit there for a turn.

Devil Dog wrote:Nice list. I love the assassins having hammerhand, but at 93 points why not just put out Coteaz? He is seven more points and adds a few extras. Not to mention he is a great looking
model. Good idea having razorback squads as well, though I would put some lascannons on them, just for some long range anti tank scariness. People don't expect long range from this army.

I did have Coteaz at first but then i'd have to drop a death cult to put him in, and i'd be missing another 4 power weapon attacks on the charge but i'm not sure if i'd need them!

To be fair Coteaz does make them troops so they can capture an objective if i need them, I'll play it out with the list i have and if i need to change i'll put Coteaz in for the Hereticus.

Wait, sorry for this post, but is my inquisitor legal? In the GK dex it says i exchange any one weapon for a force sword however i have both a TH and IP on my inquisitor, can someone please confirm that my loadout is ok and that i don't need to change it.

Thanks

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:Wait, sorry for this post, but is my inquisitor legal? In the GK dex it says i exchange any one weapon for a force sword however i have both a TH and IP on my inquisitor, can someone please confirm that my loadout is ok and that i don't need to change it.

Thanks

looks good. exchange boltpistol for the IP and the chainsword for the hammer. works well.

dose that mean it gets 5 attacks at i1 or 3 power attacks at i4 then 3 hammer attacks at i1? :S

I believe using the hammer all your attacks are I1

All attacks made by the character with the hammer are resolved at I 1. The characters without a hammer attack at thier own I.

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:I did have Coteaz at first but then i'd have to drop a death cult to put him in, and i'd be missing another 4 power weapon attacks on the charge but i'm not sure if i'd need them!

Dude, I have to agree, your better off with Coteaz for the extra points, he makes them troops, he has a better armour save, he can use two powers a turn, he has his bird, he gives you sanctuary, gives a better chance of stealing the imitative (or you opponent a better chance of steal/reducing the chance depending what works best at the time), basically, he is just a very good character, you only use the other types if you want the grenades, something else, Coteaz a daemon hammer which is a little better, say you have some multi-wound S5 T5+ model you want to kill, its fine, coteaz has a strength 8 mastercrafted force weapon!

itsonlyme wrote:

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:I did have Coteaz at first but then i'd have to drop a death cult to put him in, and i'd be missing another 4 power weapon attacks on the charge but i'm not sure if i'd need them!

Dude, I have to agree, your better off with Coteaz for the extra points, he makes them troops, he has a better armour save, he can use two powers a turn, he has his bird, he gives you sanctuary, gives a better chance of stealing the imitative (or you opponent a better chance of steal/reducing the chance depending what works best at the time), basically, he is just a very good character, you only use the other types if you want the grenades, something else, Coteaz a daemon hammer which is a little better, say you have some multi-wound S5 T5+ model you want to kill, its fine, coteaz has a strength 8 mastercrafted force weapon!

Careful with coteaz so he doesnt get killed. He is an IC so he can be singled out.

Draigo wrote:Careful with coteaz so he doesnt get killed. He is an IC so he can be singled out.

Hows that different to the inquisitor already in the list?? I fail to see what your point is other than pointing out the obvious...

itsonlyme wrote:

Draigo wrote:Careful with coteaz so he doesnt get killed. He is an IC so he can be singled out.

Hows that different to the inquisitor already in the list?? I fail to see what your point is other than pointing out the obvious...

How can I assume everyone knows that? Though inititally when I wrote this I didnt realize he had an overpriced xenos inquisitor as the current hq.

Draigo wrote:

itsonlyme wrote:

Draigo wrote:Careful with coteaz so he doesnt get killed. He is an IC so he can be singled out.

Hows that different to the inquisitor already in the list?? I fail to see what your point is other than pointing out the obvious...

How can I assume everyone knows that? Though inititally when I wrote this I didnt realize he had an overpriced xenos inquisitor as the current hq.

It's not a Xenos one, haha! and plus it's semi competitive, Sure if it was fully competitive then i'd go for Coteaz but he's there for a bit of fun and to be fair to him for 100 points he still brings a fair bit of damage to the tabletop.

Not really even semi competitive since things like your dca cant take any shooting and lack crusaders. Your hq gets hit by a dread even with those dca and hes singled out and dies . Then your dca beat on it and prey your strikes comes to save them.

Which with low numbers doesnt help your army out. Strikes only have 1 base attack so theyre not real combat monsters and at best pick on ds. The list needs the razorbacks are a lynchpin of the list and if theyre busted open your one 24 in canon wont cut it.

Draigo wrote:Not really even semi competitive since things like your dca cant take any shooting and lack crusaders. Your hq gets hit by a dread even with those dca and hes singled out and dies . Then your dca beat on it and prey your strikes comes to save them.

Which with low numbers doesnt help your army out. Strikes only have 1 base attack so theyre not real combat monsters and at best pick on ds. The list needs the razorbacks are a lynchpin of the list and if theyre busted open your one 24 in canon wont cut it.

I don't see how that troll was obvious. I think its actually advice, and seemed like a critique. Which last time I looked, seemed to be the reason for this thread. I guess you could consider trolling anything you deem trolling. I feel like throwing up a huge picture flaming someone for no reason is trolling. The troll calling out trolling if you will.


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I'll also say this. If I was wondering what worked best in a GK army I wouldn't discount any advice Mr Draigo gave on the subject. I've never seen bad advice about GK from him.

Draigo wrote:Not really even semi competitive since things like your dca cant take any shooting and lack crusaders. Your hq gets hit by a dread even with those dca and hes singled out and dies . Then your dca beat on it and prey your strikes comes to save them.

Which with low numbers doesnt help your army out. Strikes only have 1 base attack so theyre not real combat monsters and at best pick on ds. The list needs the razorbacks are a lynchpin of the list and if theyre busted open your one 24 in canon wont cut it.

So what would you reccommend for my strikes then mr Draigo?

Draigo wrote:How can I assume everyone knows that? Though inititally when I wrote this I didnt realize he had an overpriced xenos inquisitor as the current hq.

Why would you assume people don't know that? makes no sense to me

GoDz BuZzSaW wrote:It's not a Xenos one, haha! and plus it's semi competitive, Sure if it was fully competitive then i'd go for Coteaz but he's there for a bit of fun and to be fair to him for 100 points he still brings a fair bit of damage to the tabletop.

If you want a inquistor basically you take Coteaz because he looks cool and gives you a ton of abilities on the cheap or you take MR mobile grenade launcher, my last 1000pts list I did was:

Coteaz

10 strikes
2 psycannons
Daemonhammer
rhino

10 Strikes
2 psycannons

Stormraven

Venerable dread
assault cannon
heavy flamer
psybolt
psyflame

Hardly super competitive but has the advantage of speed and rapid deployment of a lot of points into a single spot, sticking coteaz in your list isn't suddenly going to jump it up the scale, sticking on with fun grenades will a tad, you have alt of wasted points in your list, psybolts on strikes, thats nearly a stormraven paid for which is going to give you a easy ride if someone brings a raider or your playing against necrons with all them AV 13 tanks, I would build the list very differently as you can see, just no reason to use the inquisitor you have chosen other the other options, rule of cool, Coteaz still wins