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So with the new IG faq an entire platoon can be deployed as a single unit. Which is pretty sick, if your a gunline fan. No longer does you HWTS have to walk on and give up a turn of shooting. They are already deployed. So what does dakka think? Does this hint that mech is dying? Or is it just an oversight fix that was long overdue? Honestly I dont have an openion, but some at my Flgs have conflicting ideas.

I didn't realize that was an issue, we always played it that way at my FLGS, a platoon acted as a single unit till after deployment, then it functions separately.

This does bring up the question of if Creed can Tactical Genius a whole Platoon? Six outflanking Chimera carrying 55 guardsmen arriving at the same time is a hilarious though.

Yeah. My FLGS always said since each was a seperate Unit, you could only deploy 2. Now if creed did that that would be sweet. Combine al rahim and have a complete out flanking army.

I think Creed can definately do that. He is a freaking GENIUS!!! CREEEEEEEE!!! (sorry had to get it out of my system)


On the other hand, I am now tempted to do a list for mech guard for 6th edition that will use techpriests and more plasma cannon toting servitors for even MORE blast templates. I can't really give orders anyway so I don't really feel like I'm missing too much though "Back into the fight" will be missed.

My other concern would be that while the techpriest may be fixing something, can the servitors shoot at other targets or are they forbidden to fire while you repair?

Lastly, from a fluff perspective, now that I can field IG without any leadership like commissars or even their own captains but with a techpriest in charge, can I finally claim I am fielding an adeptus mechanicus army now?

Id say from a fluff viewpoint its an admec army.

I read somewhere in the codex that an IG army can only have 2 techpriest/engineseers?

Assuming one is tied up looking after the artillery and getting launchers to launch on cue, that leaves only 1 for everything else.

I get the idea that most "armies" are a few squads plus a tank or two, so at that level 2 techs is about right.

Saddo that I am I'm currently building tank number 57, or thereabouts, and my infantry is about 300 at last count.

Don't ask for a pic, I spent half a day setting them up on a 8x4 sheet for a pic, and they don't fit. Do take a look in the gallery though as there are a few on there.

Anyhoo, back to techpriests... can anyone clarify if the rules are 2 per army, no matter how big the army is, or is it actually 2 priests per company sized game?

Yeah, you are only allowed 0-2 techpriests and 0-5 normal priests.

As far as fluff is concerned, a regiment is allocated as many priests as the Mechanicus deems fit to oversee the rituals to the Machine.

Yes, you can stick the chimera down as well

Previously it was one *choice* however DoW never cared about choices but *units*

This was a debate we had awhile back during the Escalation league at my local GW. The manager ultimately chose to let me put my platoons on as a whole unit, much to the dismay of my opponents, and let me tell you, three platoons coupled with Al'rahem and Creed is sick nasty.

ObliviousBlueCaboose wrote: Does this hint that mech is dying?

No.

ObliviousBlueCaboose wrote:Or is it just an oversight fix that was long overdue?

Not really. I don't know why they felt they had to rule on this issue.

It gives foot lists a slight boost on DoW missions, but not much else.

Does this define them as a unit or just a unit for the purposes of deploying?

Because if they are a unit, Guard just became the hardest army to beat off the field.

Bongfu wrote:Does this define them as a unit or just a unit for the purposes of deploying?

Because if they are a unit, Guard just became the hardest army to beat off the field.

lol, yes, just for deployment.

I like the idea of a couple of commissars hiding way in a corner out of LOS, and the entire army gets stubborn by virtue of the fact that they're all technically part of the same units.

Ailaros wrote:

Bongfu wrote:Does this define them as a unit or just a unit for the purposes of deploying?

Because if they are a unit, Guard just became the hardest army to beat off the field.

lol, yes, just for deployment.

I like the idea of a couple of commissars hiding way in a corner out of LOS, and the entire army gets stubborn by virtue of the fact that they're all technically part of the same units.

Yeah, that was my line of thinking.

Still, I think the ruling means that Creed's ability affects the whole platoon. Because you roll for a whole platoon as one unit for reserve, therefore, Creed could technically give the entire platoon outflank or scout. Or maybe just outflank for the purposes of reserve.

No.

The ENTIRE platoon is never reeeally "one unit".
In scenarios where there are limits placed on the number of units you can deploy, you can deploy the entire platoon as one of those units....and only for THAT specific purpose and in that regard is the entire platoon considered one unit.

When Creed comes along and says; "You guys in that one unit will outflank because I am a tactical genius", the platoon commander responds; "We are not considered one unit for any purpose other than *insert the above mentioned*".


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Yeah and I agree with you Stealmage. However it would be sweet to have creed out flank a platoon.

ObliviousBlueCaboose wrote:Id say from a fluff viewpoint its an admec army.

Or a force led by whomever the senior-most Platoon commander is ("Senior Lieutenant" or "Captain" Smith).

It's not like Majors and Colonels are supervising every company-level deployment...

actually, in this case I'd think creed would outflank an entire platoon now. Creed affects how a unit deploys, and a platoon is considered a single unit for deployment.

Of course, Al'Rahem is still cheaper...

Creed gives a single unit Scouts. Nothing to do with the FAQed situation.

SlaveToDorkness wrote:Creed gives a single unit Scouts. Nothing to do with the FAQed situation.

Except that it says a platoon is considered one unit for the purposes of rolling for reserve, meaning if you held a platoon in reserve, gave it Scout from Creed, then I think it would logically mean they all have Scout since they have to roll as one unit.

Outflank is not a deployment restriction of a mission, though.

Read the whole FAQ answer, not just the first bit