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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/19 09:48:34
Subject: Can Commissars and Squad leaders dual wield Power Fists.
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In the Imperial Guard codex, squad commanders and Commissars can select power fists. Are they able to swap out their pistol and close combat weapon for 2 power fists (For the extra attack)?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/01/19 09:50:28
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/19 09:55:41
Subject: Can Commissars and Squad leaders dual wield Power Fists.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Does it say they can?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/19 09:59:14
Subject: Re:Can Commissars and Squad leaders dual wield Power Fists.
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The Emperor Class Battleship 'The Sky Ablaze'
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It says
'The (Insert Title Here) may exchange his laspistol (Bolt Pistol for Commissars) and/or close combat weapon for X (X being the weapon choices)'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/19 10:01:20
Subject: Can Commissars and Squad leaders dual wield Power Fists.
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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That sounds like permission to exchange your laspistol/Bolt Pistol AND close combat weapon for X.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/19 10:04:32
Subject: Can Commissars and Squad leaders dual wield Power Fists.
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Stormin' Stompa
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@ OP Yes, that is correct. Go ahead and dual-wield Power Fists.....not on the Commissars in Infantry Squads though. @DR It is also permission to "Exchange pistol OR close combat weapon for X". The wording is; "The Platoon Command and/or Commissar may exchange his pistol and /or close combat weapon for:........". It isn't even "one of the following" or wording like that. This is one of those cut-and-dried cases that we so rarely run into here in YMDC. We should rejoice. ...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/19 10:07:32
Subject: Re:Can Commissars and Squad leaders dual wield Power Fists.
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I was going to give it to my Lord Commissar. I just like the idea... Even if it isnt the smartest outfitting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/19 10:13:40
Subject: Re:Can Commissars and Squad leaders dual wield Power Fists.
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Stormin' Stompa
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Sanctus-Malas wrote:I was going to give it to my Lord Commissar. I just like the idea... Even if it isnt the smartest outfitting.
Hang on.
While it doesn't have a lot of impact in this case, you really should be more careful about how you word your questions in the future.
You talk about "squad commanders" which isn't a title in codex Imperial Guard.
You talk about "commisars" but fail to specify which kind of commissar.
And now you talk about Commissar Lords.....
Keep in mind that although some of these share a name, it does not mean that they have access to the same gear and upgrades.
Just a bit of advice for the future.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/19 15:58:48
Subject: Re:Can Commissars and Squad leaders dual wield Power Fists.
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Steelmage99 wrote:Sanctus-Malas wrote:I was going to give it to my Lord Commissar. I just like the idea... Even if it isnt the smartest outfitting.
Hang on.
While it doesn't have a lot of impact in this case, you really should be more careful about how you word your questions in the future.
You talk about "squad commanders" which isn't a title in codex Imperial Guard.
You talk about "commisars" but fail to specify which kind of commissar.
And now you talk about Commissar Lords.....
Keep in mind that although some of these share a name, it does not mean that they have access to the same gear and upgrades.
Just a bit of advice for the future. 
Considering only Veteran squad Sgts, Lord Comissars, or Commissars in Comand squads(platoon or company) even have access to Power fists, it is fairly easy to check all of them(4 entries; thats all that were needed for double checking).
Platoon infantry squads Sgts(or commissars) cannot have any power fists.
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Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/19 17:09:34
Subject: Can Commissars and Squad leaders dual wield Power Fists.
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Steelmage99 wrote:@DR
It is also permission to "Exchange pistol OR close combat weapon for X".
The wording is; "The Platoon Command and/or Commissar may exchange his pistol and /or close combat weapon for:........".
It isn't even "one of the following" or wording like that.
This is one of those cut-and-dried cases that we so rarely run into here in YMDC. We should rejoice. 
Yes, I know, maybe I should have worded it like this:
That sounds like permission to exchange your laspistol/Bolt Pistol for X, AND close combat weapon for X.
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/19 17:27:12
Subject: Re:Can Commissars and Squad leaders dual wield Power Fists.
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Stormin' Stompa
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Kommissar Kel wrote:Steelmage99 wrote:Sanctus-Malas wrote:I was going to give it to my Lord Commissar. I just like the idea... Even if it isnt the smartest outfitting.
Hang on.
While it doesn't have a lot of impact in this case, you really should be more careful about how you word your questions in the future.
You talk about "squad commanders" which isn't a title in codex Imperial Guard.
You talk about "commisars" but fail to specify which kind of commissar.
And now you talk about Commissar Lords.....
Keep in mind that although some of these share a name, it does not mean that they have access to the same gear and upgrades.
Just a bit of advice for the future. 
Considering only Veteran squad Sgts, Lord Comissars, or Commissars in Comand squads(platoon or company) even have access to Power fists, it is fairly easy to check all of them(4 entries; thats all that were needed for double checking).
Platoon infantry squads Sgts(or commissars) cannot have any power fists.
You missed my point.
Look at the bolded parts. I am well aware of the different options available to different "types" of Commissars.
And I am well aware that I could look through the different units and still find the answer.
I am looking to the future
Steelmage99 wrote:While it doesn't have a lot of impact in this case...
My worry was two-fold;
One, that the poster wasn't aware of said difference.
Two, that the poster would get wrong answers to his questions in the future because they might lack a certain precision.
This wasn't about this specific question, but rather a change in understanding of the use of wording and how it affects the likelihood of us getting good, relevant, useful answers.
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