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Frightnening Fiend of Slaanesh




Greenwich CT

Hi everyone, here is my 2000pt list

I was wondering if I could get some advice and some critiques on this army. A few of my closest friends are starting up fantasy and I chose Daemons(to serve as a 40k army also, so that I can carry one army instead of two when I go to play at my FLGS). I will mostly playing against HE, Skaven, TK and VC. Unfortunately i went 5 points over but no one is really making a big deal about it, for now I'm just going to use this for friendly play, however down the road I will try to make it competitive. So any advice will be grateful and highly appreciated. Below is my list, its mostly Khorne themed with a splash Tzeentch.

Just to save time here's the old army list

Spoiler:
Lords
Bloodthirster of Khorne (General)
w/ Immortal Fury and Axe of Khorne - 500pts

Heroes
Herald of Khorne
w/ BSB, Great Icon of Despair and Firestorm Blade - 225pts

Skulltaker - 150pts

Core
15x Bloodletters of Khorne
w/ Full Command and Icon of Endless Rage - 235pts

15x Bloodletters of Khorne
w/ full Command and Icon of Endless Rage - 235pts

10x Pink Horrors of Tzeentch
w/ Full Command and Icon of Sorcery - 165pts

Rare
3x Bloodcrushers of Khorne
w/ Full Command and Icon of Endless Rage - 285pts

3x Flamers of Tzeentch - 105pts

3X Flamers of Tzeentch - 105pts

2005/2000pts

Here's the new list
Heroes
Herald of Tzeentch
w/ Master of Sorcery and Winged Horror - 160pts

Herald of Khorne
w/ BSB, Banner of Unholy Victory and Armour of Khorne - 190pts

Core
30x Bloodletters of Khorne
w/ Full Command and Icon of Endless Rage - 415pts

29x Bloodletters of Khorne
w/ Full Command - 378pts

20x Pink Horrors of Tzeentch
w/ Full Command and Icon of Sorcery - 285pts

Rare
3x Bloodcrushers of Khorne
w/ Full Command - 360pts

6x Flamers of Tzeentch - 210pts

1998/2000

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colorado

For starters; you're 5 points over.
But I think your units are too small. You'll need bodies to help with the losses due to instability.
Greater demons are awesome, but very expensive. I'd drop the 'thirster for more core troops, and maybe skull taker for a tzeentch herald w/master of sorcery.
Dual flamers are sweet, but I think one unit of 6 would perform better than 2 units of 3.
One big unit will let you really bring the pain on opposing units that can put the hurt on your soft core guys, like white lions/black guard/grave guard/chosen.

I believe in the FAQ demonic icons are now like magic banners; you can only have 1 in an army.
This is just more points to spend on core troops though.

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2500 (Skaven), 3000! (Chaos Dwarf), 2500 (Warriors of Chaos)
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Frightnening Fiend of Slaanesh




Greenwich CT

cricketofdeth wrote:
I believe in the FAQ demonic icons are now like magic banners; you can only have 1 in an army.


Thanks for pointing out the FAQ, I had a brain fart and forgot to check it.


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Ok thanks for advice on bigger core units, this is the list that I came up with after looking at the FAQ

Heroes
Herald of Tzeentch
w/ Master of Sorcery and Winged Horror - 160pts

Herald of Khorne
w/ BSB, Banner of Unholy Victory and Armour of Khorne - 190pts

Core
30x Bloodletters of Khorne
w/ Full Command and Icon of Endless Rage - 415pts

29x Bloodletters of Khorne
w/ Full Command - 378pts

20x Pink Horrors of Tzeentch
w/ Full Command and Icon of Sorcery - 285pts

Rare
3x Bloodcrushers of Khorne
w/ Full Command - 360pts

6x Flamers of Tzeentch - 210pts

1998/2000

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2012/01/20 07:49:57


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colorado

Your list is much more solid now.
Running 15 bloodletters in a unit can see them popped by instability in one round of CC.
If you wanted to save some points, and get armor of khorne on your BSB, drop the unit champs from all the units that won't have a hero in them. The 1 extra attack normally isn’t worth the 10 extra points, where as the AoK will keep your BSB alive for quite a bit longer.

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2500 (Skaven), 3000! (Chaos Dwarf), 2500 (Warriors of Chaos)
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If you really want to use the blood thirster, this is what I use at the 2k point value. The lore of light has good synergy with the rest of the list. Life wouild be another good choice.

Bloodthirster
immortal fury
Armour of khorne

Herald of Khorne Fire Storm Blade
Armour of Khorne

Herald of Tzeentch Master of Sorcery-Light
BSB


Herald of Slanesh


20 Pink Horrors Banner, Musc

29 Bloodletter Full Command
Icon of Endless war

24 Daemonettes Full Command
Siren Standard

Fiend
Fiend

3000
4000 Deamons - Mainly a fantasy army now.
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Greenwich CT

I don't think I'm going to run the Bloodthirster anymore. I am considering running a Lord of Change at the 2500 point value, any thoughts on that?

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colorado

Lord of change can be very good. Give him master of sorcery, and twin heads for a +6 to cast from any lore you want.
Another good combo is master of sorcery/power vortex (d3 wounds for d3 PD). Just take lore of life, so you heal yourself with every spell you cast. If you can get it off, you'll vortex yourself for a few wounds, and the heal them back the same phase. The extra PD should let you over whelm the phase whenever you need it.

Plus the lord of change is still a greater demon, so you can use him to wreck smaller units of cav/skirmishers.

Cause the chicks dig it...
2000 (RT era Thousand Sons), 2000 (Undivided), 3000 (demons)
2500 (Skaven), 3000! (Chaos Dwarf), 2500 (Warriors of Chaos)
(RT era World Eaters WIP) 
   
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Frightnening Fiend of Slaanesh




Greenwich CT

Thanks for all the input.

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