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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/20 19:56:14
Subject: Will 6th edition make plasma pistol better
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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Since you can now use pistol as a primary weapon. Will this make it worth 15pts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/20 20:01:45
Subject: Will 6th edition make plasma pistol better
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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I think so. This also means that running in you get two shots first turn. I don't play my marines very much, but I could see it being a much better option than before.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/20 20:07:12
Subject: Will 6th edition make plasma pistol better
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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Actually, you don't since assault is before shooting.
Also, its statline is Str 7 AP 5 Combat, Pistol 1, Rending, Gets Hot!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 3412/01/20 20:12:22
Subject: Will 6th edition make plasma pistol better
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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Assault is +1 attack, even on a secondary attack as far as I can tell. If that is the case you would get 2 attacks in the first round of combat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/20 20:15:19
Subject: Will 6th edition make plasma pistol better
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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Shouldn't you get
Base (Pistol 1) + 1 for second weapon + 1 on a charge?
Why would you only get 2 on the first round only?
Now that I think about it Str 7, Rending is not that bad. Basically almost like genestealers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/20 20:19:15
Subject: Will 6th edition make plasma pistol better
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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You either get your primary attack, like a CC or your secondary. If you pick your pistol you don't get but 1 shot.
Space marine with 1 attack base with plasma pistol and CCW.
Charges and either gets 3 attacks with normal melee, or 2 attacks with the str 7 AP5, rending, and every turn after that if he chooses his secondary it's just 1 shot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/20 20:31:05
Subject: Will 6th edition make plasma pistol better
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I see. With that in mind, I say Plasma Pistol should be dropped to 10 points. When that happen maybe 2 Plasma Pistols could be a decent build: 2 Str 7 AP5 Rending attack for 20pts.
Not so bad for a sergent given that sargs are now much more important.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/20 20:40:14
Subject: Will 6th edition make plasma pistol better
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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Yeah, but it's still really nice to have str 7 (8 for melta pistols) at normal initiative, totally worth the points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/20 21:19:43
Subject: Will 6th edition make plasma pistol better
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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15 pts for Str 7 AP 5 Rending (1 attack)
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15 pts for Normal Str AP 2 w/ 5+ invul save in CC (3 attacks)
Tough choices to make.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/20 21:35:02
Subject: Will 6th edition make plasma pistol better
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What rule do you propose?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/20 21:48:31
Subject: Will 6th edition make plasma pistol better
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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I am not proposing, just discussing the competitiveness of plasma pistol with the leaked 6th edition rule if it still costs 15 pts.
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