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OK so please help out. So I am space wolves and I an fighting nids. The nids attacked my one group of Calvary with a group of gonts a trevagon and a swarm lord. I won combat by 7. They are all fearless. Dose each group take 7 wounds?

Each unit on the losing side suffers the full negative morale effects. If they weren't Fearless, they'd each take a Morale test at -7. If they are Fearless, they each suffer 7 No Retreat wounds.

Yeah, it's a fun way to kill the big monsters when fighting nids. Send the horde after the gaunts and one or two boyz after the swarmlord/tervagon/whatever and watch them die to fearless wounds

That's what I thought but I'm still arguing with my opponent about it. If you agree please let me know thank you

Your opponent is wrong. It's spelled out black and white in the BRB.

This is why you don't charge gants into something you're also going to throw big boys at.

DeT07 wrote:That's what I thought but I'm still arguing with my opponent about it. If you agree please let me know thank you

Show your opponent the following from the main rulebook;

Page 41 under assault results, "Every unit on the losing side has to check their Morale..."

Page 44 under no retreat, "Instead, these units suffer a number of wounds equal to the number their side has lost the combat by..."

The good news is he can take armor or invulnerable saves as normal.

The bad news is that his unit of gaunts, his tervigon and his swarmlord each have to take a morale check at their Ld minus 7, and if they fail, then each unit takes 7 wounds.

And they can't be one group because the tervigon and the swarmlord are both monstrous creatures and are not independent characters so they can't join other units.

The bad news is that his unit of gaunts, his tervigon and his swarmlord each have to take a morale check at their Ld minus 7, and if they fail, then each unit takes 7 wounds.

There's no Morale test. They just each suffer 7 wounds.

Mannahnin wrote:

The bad news is that his unit of gaunts, his tervigon and his swarmlord each have to take a morale check at their Ld minus 7, and if they fail, then each unit takes 7 wounds.

There's no Morale test. They just each suffer 7 wounds.

Quite correct Mannahnin, my error. The fearless units don't take morale tests, they simple suffer the sounds. Thanks!

DeT07 wrote:OK so please help out. So I am space wolves and I an fighting nids. The nids attacked my one group of Calvary with a group of gonts a trevagon and a swarm lord. I won combat by 7. They are all fearless. Dose each group take 7 wounds?

Yes, it is considered 1 large combat, and each "combat group" is effected by the overall combat results. In this case, all of the fearless combat groups that lost combat by 7, need to take 7 armor saves.

Next time, your opponent should not charge TWC with gaunts.

You also don't suffer wounds if you take the Morale test and lose, you just fall back.

Dude, if he charged you with all of that, and *still* lost by 7.... God wants him to lose and he should just accept it.

Happyjew wrote:You also don't suffer wounds if you take the Morale test and lose, you just fall back.

Not if they are Fearless, which his were. The Wounds they are suffering from are No Retreat! Wounds.

The loser of the combat would take the 7 wounds, so in this case the guy you were playing would take the wounds not you.

have to take a morale check at their Ld minus 7, and if they fail, then each unit takes 7 wounds.

This is what I was referring too.

Thank you all so much. My opponent was one of NY best friends but omg I wanted to pull a Dane cook and slap all the models off the table and tell him he wins lol i was so mad trying to explain this rule to him. I even showed him a video from MiniWarGaming where matt made the mistake of multi assaulting and it didn't work out for him. My friends response was " I don't believe him." Hahahha thanks again everyone!

Quick question regarding fearless saves that ive been thinking about (dont have the BRB handy)

Earlier this week I played against Chaos and with mindshackle scarabs I did 5 wounds against Kharn and his berzerkers, then they struck back, killed 2 immortals, then the immortals and overlord + lord did 4 more wounds to the berzerkers effectively wiping out the unit of berzerkers but kharn was still up.

So that was 9 wounds in my favor, 2 in my opponents... would kharn have to make these 7 fearless saves since he was part of the berzerker unit or because hes an IC he wouldn't have to as none of the attacks were directed at him?

YEs, he would make the saves

p49, he rejoins the unit before assault results are calculated