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Made in gb
Swift Swooping Hawk





England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole

Currently I am a 40k player and I play Tau and Blood Angels. But I have been thinking of starting fantasy. Chaos Daemons will be my army.

Gennerally I am just looking for any information anyone can give me on how to play the army and tips on what I should buy. I want to run either mono Khorne, nono Tzeentch or a mox of the two I will add in Nurgle if I need to. Just so long as I don't have to add in any Slaanesh.

So thanks to any comments.

 
   
Made in lv
Camouflaged Zero





Where the sun crosses the field of blood.

I hope you join in on the Fantasy side of the game too!
That said, I have never played with or faced Chaos Daemons, but from what I've heard, Khorne / Tzeentch is quite strong. Khorne brings the punch, Tzeentch brings the magic.

 
   
Made in us
Hardened Veteran Guardsman





Edge of the Horizon

Daemons are currently regarded as one of the broken armies - very powerful with no real weaknesses.
The game-plan is to have big boxes of daemons with Heralds (Khorne Bloodletters usually) and just walk across the map.
They are not particularly flexible, yet overwhelming in things that they can do.
What you want to buy? Many boxes of regular Daemons. You'll want about 50+ of main fight-y Daemons(in low point games split them in two units) and 20+ of secondary type (Tzeench Horrors should be in it if you set on using them, just keep in mind that you'll have to play around them for them to be effective). Herald for each/most blocks, BsB. Season with some specials, lords and rares and you are set.

Though, I suppose you don't have to play cookie cutter Daemon army. As an afterthought, I'd say that's the way to go. All Tzeench lists are very rare, you can try that, for example. Best of luck!

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Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





Daemons aren't broken at all.

However, they really don't function well as mono-anything. The designers have even stated you're supposed to mix and match.

There's just not enough different unit types to make a mono army easily. And magic is so powerful in 8th an all Khorne army will have some trouble with nothing.

Unfortunately, some DoC units really suck and the others are extremely good. So it's really a no-brainer what you take if you want any kind of chance of winning.

All the Heralds are very good. TZ Herald with master of sorcery. Khorne Herald, with or without bloodcrusher. Bloodletters for your hammer. Bloodcrushers are good. Flamers are the best elite shooters in the game. Special Characters Masque and Skulltaker are great and Blue Scribe isn't bad. And the Lords can be good, just avoid Daemon Prince. The best for cost is probably Bloodthirster, which you can squeeze out with maybe 475 or 500 points (his cost) and have him very effective.

   
Made in us
Hardened Veteran Guardsman





Edge of the Horizon

I'll have to disagree. 8th Daemonic rules in combination big steadfast blocks and BSB means that your entire army is Unbreakable and will never suffer any significant losses from instability.

Why do I think they are not working as intended? One can fairly handily win games by just having a bunch of blocks of basic Daemons(Bloodletters, for example) and walk them forward.
Daemon or not, NO army should be able to do that by design.

But I digress...

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Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





They can be out steadfast and they are expensive to do that. I don't know if instability was meant as an evener or more as flavor. Tk have it but they are cheap horde that can rez eiasily. It just gieves another strat, to take out their steafast.

   
Made in us
Hardened Veteran Guardsman





Edge of the Horizon

12 pts for a top notch, quote on quote unbreakable troops, that don't require any upgrades is as cheap as any army can hope to field. Hammer and anvil rolled into one. I'd probably take some even in a Skaven army.
But don't take my word for it, there's plenty of tournament statistics to back it up.

I'm not trying to pad my ego here, I want make clear that army you are suggesting is Classic Daemon WAAC - not for friendly games, but to clobber people savagely with.
If that's dandy, it's red's decision, but I don't want him to have any illusions about what he'll have.

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Made in gb
Swift Swooping Hawk





England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole

This will probably be more fun games with competative aspects so decent lists but not tournemant ready but if I want to enter a tournemant I don't want to have to roll out tons of money to get it up to spec from what I currently have. Where we play we play to win but to have fun doing so.

 
   
Made in us
Hardened Veteran Guardsman





Edge of the Horizon

You now have two sides of the argument.

Take what you feel is appropriate.

 
   
 
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