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I don't know if I've just missed something in the rulebooks somewhere - I always thought that dedicated transports still counted as a separate kill point in KP games, but I just saw someone mention somewhere that they didn't, so now I'm horribly confused.

And if they don't count as a separate kill point - do you have to destroy them AND the unit they're dedicated to before you get the KP? Or is it still just the unit, and the transport doesn't count for jack?

They are seperate kill points as they are seperate units. If someone says otherwise then tell them that the transport must stay within 2" of the infantry unit that bought it and it can only fire at the same thing that the infantry fired at, and vice versa.

I've always played as separate KP.

They are a seperate unit, so they are a kill point on their own; it means that armies like Mech DE have ludicrous amounts of KPs on the table sometimes.

The fact it is bought for a unit can confuse people, but Dedicated Transports have no rules other than the one disallowing them to carry any unit other than the one it was bought for at the start of the game.

Another thing that a lot of people get wrong, is that in dawn of war deployment a units transport counts as one of the 2 troops you are allowed to deploy. As it is 'units' not 'slots'.

People do get that wrong quite frequently, and it seems to be something that can take some time to get people to understand, even with the rule starring them in the face.

So what happens to an IG platoon with say 5 infantry squads in chimeras, hw teams etc in dow?
Also I take it that my boyz squads mounted in battlewagons are royally screwed by dow?
Playing orks v IG this weekend so will be nice to know : )

rubicant99 wrote:So what happens to an IG platoon with say 5 infantry squads in chimeras, hw teams etc in dow?
Also I take it that my boyz squads mounted in battlewagons are royally screwed by dow?
Playing orks v IG this weekend so will be nice to know : )

The entire platoon can deploy - so all 5 squads, hw teams, etc.
The Chimera's deploying with them is hotly debated. You and your opponent should read the arguments and decide how you're going to play it.

Leo_the_Rat wrote:They are seperate kill points as they are seperate units. If someone says otherwise then tell them that the transport must stay within 2" of the infantry unit that bought it and it can only fire at the same thing that the infantry fired at, and vice versa.

That would also mean that they are the same unit and cannot embark upon itself therefore if they try to embark the universe would implode - the avenging knee

rigeld2 wrote:

rubicant99 wrote:So what happens to an IG platoon with say 5 infantry squads in chimeras, hw teams etc in dow?
Also I take it that my boyz squads mounted in battlewagons are royally screwed by dow?
Playing orks v IG this weekend so will be nice to know : )

The entire platoon can deploy - so all 5 squads, hw teams, etc.
The Chimera's deploying with them is hotly debated. You and your opponent should read the arguments and decide how you're going to play it.

This is per the new IG FAQ, just in case you weren't aware of it.

Grimnarsmate wrote:

Leo_the_Rat wrote:They are seperate kill points as they are seperate units. If someone says otherwise then tell them that the transport must stay within 2" of the infantry unit that bought it and it can only fire at the same thing that the infantry fired at, and vice versa.

That would also mean that they are the same unit and cannot embark upon itself therefore if they try to embark the universe would implode - the avenging knee

Well the transport would embark into itself, which means the transport is removed from the table but not destroyed and still exists somewhere on the table inside of itself along with the rest of the squad that is transporting the transport and a squad and so on....

edit: misclick

Righto, thanks for clearing that up for me! Glad I've been getting it right so far, heh.